Trump's Plan to Shaft the Average Working People (ethic, drugs, healthcare)

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

And dimwits love to make ridiculous comments.

Name calling? lol you're quite the debater.

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

Next we'll be reading posts about how well trickle-down economics works.

You've had eight years of Obama practicing his version of "trickle down" and the wealth gap is larger than ever. Where have you criticized him and his dem co-conspirators?

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

Liberals want government to be a buffer against the robber barons. Hence environmental regulations, labor laws, banking laws, national parks ...

not hardly in practice.
We still have contaminated water and soil (often the culprit is guv itself), bailouts to banks and Wall Street, national parks that get closed when the fed guv wants to punish us for not tithing enough of our wealth to it.. So many failures so little bandwith.

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

Conservatives (not sure why they are called this as they don't want to conserve anything, really) want minimal government interference in the robber barons' schemes.

Agree many conservatives are anything but, and again I'll say you embrace the biggest robber baron in the history of the world, the US fed guv., thus leaving you no high ground from which to preach.

[JohnnyMack]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

gainst the robber barons. Hence environmental regulations, labor laws, banking laws, national parks ...

Conservatives (not sure why they are called this as they don't want to conserve anything, really) want minimal government interference in the robber barons' schemes.

Yet they want BIG Government to control every aspect of a person's private life they don't agree with.

[GotHereQuickAsICould]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Not much...

Here's a good breakdown of the total effective federal tax rate paid by each group. Additionally, note the HUGE drop (10 percentage points) in the effective federal income tax rate between the top 1% and the top >1-5%:

This only lists federal income tax rate. There are other taxes as well.

Also, it should be noted that many wealthy and profitable corporations pay no federal taxes at all.

27 giant profitable companies paid no taxes

And, strangely enough, many wealthy people use dubious methods to avoid paying any federal taxes as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us...trump-tax.html

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

This only lists federal income tax rate. There are other taxes as well.

Also, it should be noted that many wealthy corporations pay no federal taxes at all.

27 giant profitable companies paid no taxes

And, strangely enough, many wealthy people, some who brag about being billionaires , pay no federal taxes either.

Perhaps the IRS should have addressed that as opposed to attacking them for their speech?

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Perhaps the IRS should have addressed that as opposed to attacking them for their speech?

The IRS doesn't write the tax code.

It's not illegal to minimize how much you pay in taxes, but the IRS isn't the one writing the rules Congress is.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

The IRS doesn't write the tax code.

It's not illegal to minimize how much you pay in taxes, but the IRS isn't the one writing the rules Congress is.

There were no regulations or laws that allowed them to do what they did.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by pknopp

I've been reading them for years. About how great the QE programs have been for Wall Street and how that has been a good thing.

Here's who benefited from the QE programs...

1) Anyone who has any kind of pension plan or retirement account. $27 Trillion is invested in pension/retirement accounts.

http://fiduciary-matters.russell.com...eave-it-alone/

2) The tens of thousands of people who are at least 5 years late on their mortgage payments and will consequently get their homes for free, as the statute of limitations has expired. The Federal Reserve created $2 Trillion in QE to bail out the delinquent homeowners and the GSEs which had to pay those who invested in their MBS.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/30/bu...ires.html?_r=0

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Here's who benefited from the QE programs...

Ive covered long ago my distaste of discussing your contempt for those struggling more than once.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

Goal post moves from "no" taxes to well "some" taxes?

I said "not much."

Why can't we just have a flat tax? Higher income earners would still be WAY overpaying for what they get even with a flat tax.

[irish_bob]

Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould

Next we'll be reading posts about great well trickle-down economics works.

Liberals want government to be a buffer against the robber barons. Hence environmental regulations, labor laws, banking laws, national parks ...

Conservatives (not sure why they are called this as they don't want to conserve anything, really) want minimal government interference in the robber barons' schemes.

yes and the uninformed appear to have a near masochistic attitude to the wealthy

i cant think of any other country where the poor ( ish ) demand they take a hit so the wealthy dont have to but its the only rational explanation as to why anyone earning an average wage would vote GOP