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But that's what someone like Ellison would do. His Nation of Islam roots alone will alienate a major swath of the country. It's pretty tough to walk back that kind of stuff. The guy will be toxic to any hopes the Democrats have of repositioning themselves into something that middle of the road folks will relate to. Over my adult life I have voted both parties, but no way will I vote Democrat if folks like him are leading the charge. That he would even be considered for a leadership position is damaging the cause of the Democrats. It shouts identity politics, and not in a good way.
But that's what someone like Ellison would do. His Nation of Islam roots alone will alienate a major swath of the country. It's pretty tough to walk back that kind of stuff. The guy will be toxic to any hopes the Democrats have of repositioning themselves into something that middle of the road folks will relate to. Over my adult life I have voted both parties, but no way will I vote Democrat if folks like him are leading the charge. That he would even be considered for a leadership position is damaging the cause of the Democrats. It shouts identity politics, and not in a good way.
I know quite a few Dems who had major issues about Obama being black, and did not vote in the '08 and '12 elections. Now they want to throw Muslim in the mix? Suicide for the Dems.
I am waiting for half the working white voters to get exactly what they deserve for falling for The Donald's absurd promises. The other half will just be victims of the corrupt Corporatocracy that will dominate our government. Just wait until they have to pay for aunt Millie's nursing home or have their kids pay for theirs.
As a Democrat I am working to purge the last remnants of the Clinton Cabal that has, by kissing corporate arse for 3 decades, led the party into this embarrassing result. We need to find younger leaders (say in their 30s to 50's) that will represent ALL the working people of this country instead of just BSing them with hollow rhetoric. The business owners can just be self centered Republicans as always.
So dreamers, aka illegal aliens, are a large part of Kamilla Harris's constituency????
This is why California is in the toilet. The politicians care more about illegal aliens than Americans. I hope she runs. She'll find out the rest of the country is not as crazy as California. Except Washington and Oregon. They're just as bad.
The biggest reason would be that he is not Nancy Pelosi. Under her leadership the House went from big majorities to huge deficits. That alone should make anyone want to see her dismissed.
"We need a brand as a party that says we're the party that are going to help working-class people, white people, black people, brown people, gay people, straight people, improve opportunity for them to grow their wages, to have security, economic security. And we got off that message. And when we don't talk about economics, we lose elections," Ryan told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" Sunday.
This has long been my position. The (D)'s got shellacked because they were not addressing the people's concerns over where they were going to find a decent job and instead concentrated on where they would be allowed to pee.
We can relax-Ryan is one of the few Democrats to recognize and speak of the truth. One of the few that can represent the vast majority of moderate voters in the country. One that doesn't just blather far-left socialism and the usual free crap-tax the rich foolishness of the far left. Fortunately for the Republican party, the Democrat party has swung so far left and so far from anything the mainstream can even recognize as common sense that they have made themselves irrelevant. Now they are little more than an annoying pack of yippie little dogs. Not leaders, and not really a viable political party anymore. President Obama-thank you for this!
Actually, not so much-one party rule without viable options is never a good thing. A moderate Dem, with some intelligence with regards to economics and civil rights (and gun ownership IS a civil right) would be good for this country. Ryan (from what I know) is one of those-as is Jim Webb. Sadly, I don't think the Dem party has the brains to embrace either. My bet is that they keep going all-in with their Communist dream and stick with supporting people like Pelosi, Warren, Sanders and Ellison. In which case I doubt we'll be hearing much about them in a couple more years. The Democrat party is on the way to becoming as obsolete and irrelevant as....CNN.
We can relax-Ryan is one of the few Democrats to recognize and speak of the truth. One of the few that can represent the vast majority of moderate voters in the country. One that doesn't just blather far-left socialism and the usual free crap-tax the rich foolishness of the far left. Fortunately for the Republican party, the Democrat party has swung so far left and so far from anything the mainstream can even recognize as common sense that they have made themselves irrelevant. Now they are little more than an annoying pack of yippie little dogs. Not leaders, and not really a viable political party anymore. President Obama-thank you for this!
Actually, not so much-one party rule without viable options is never a good thing. A moderate Dem, with some intelligence with regards to economics and civil rights (and gun ownership IS a civil right) would be good for this country. Ryan (from what I know) is one of those-as is Jim Webb. Sadly, I don't think the Dem party has the brains to embrace either. My bet is that they keep going all-in with their Communist dream and stick with supporting people like Pelosi, Warren, Sanders and Ellison. In which case I doubt we'll be hearing much about them in a couple more years. The Democrat party is on the way to becoming as obsolete and irrelevant as....CNN.
I am not a (D) but like you I am no fan of one party rule. Pelosi will see to it that it continues.
Cnn and the Democratic party have some really great minds and really moving the democratic in the right direction. Former communist Van Jones said that the days of Clinton and a moderate Democratic Party are over. I love to know who he considers the "the base" of the party.
The democrats now have the fewest number of state legislatures in their entire history and Republicans will enter the White House with both legislative branches in their control and their pick of a Supreme Court justice and the republicans now have the most state-elected lawmakers in office in100 years and certain democrats want to double down on the losing ideas and move further left?
“You have to understand, I think that the Clinton days are over. This idea that we’re going to be this moderate party that’s going to move in this moderate direction, that’s going to throw blacks under the bus for criminal justice reform or for prison expansion is over. He added that Kamala Harris, a California Democrat who was just elected to the US Senate, is "unreal."
"She's going to be out there defending those DREAMer kids because they're a big part of her constituency," he said. "But she's got African-American roots. She's got Asian roots. She's female. She's tough. She's smart. She's going to become a big deal."
"You’re going to be judged based on your authentic commitment to the actual base of this party."
Jones, who was formally a part of President Barack Obama’s administration, went on to explain that he believes the politics of Sens. Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Sen.-elect Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn) — which can be characterized as extremely progressive and socialistic — is the future of the Democratic Party.
If by future he means obscurity, then Van Jones is correct.
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