Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-01-2017, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Japan
15,292 posts, read 7,753,799 times
Reputation: 10006

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by usayit View Post
Regardless of which side of the issue you are on, the article is misleading and clearly has intent other than offering both sides of the discussion.
The article is expressing a particular opinion.
Quote:
That's shameful f you consider yourself an informed reader but refuse to consider both sides and views.
It is unnecessary, and ridiculous to have the expectation, that all articles on a topic will be completely balanced and express all sides of the issue. Intelligent readers consider more than one source before forming an opinion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-01-2017, 06:46 PM
 
46,943 posts, read 25,964,420 times
Reputation: 29434
Quote:
Originally Posted by jm1982 View Post
This is being "Progressive" ?

No it won't be legal to hire a child prostitute but those under 18 won't suffer criminal charges for selling sex.
Sorry I think that they should be charged as criminals even if they are under 18 just like if they are stealing or selling drugs,etc.
It's a crime.
We need to stop normalizing criminal behavior.

California Democrats legalize child prostitution | Washington Examiner
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadking2003 View Post
You assume that all under age prostitutes are doing it by force. I'm sure that's not true. Many are doing it by choice.
That's the conservative perspective on child prostitution? Interesting.

One could of course look at the matter as the abuse situation it is very likely to be. Seems like it would make more sense to help the kids extricate themselves from the circumstances that ended up with them being prostitutes - and a prison term is not going to help much there, is it?

Victimizing young women is still going to be a crime - but being the victim will no longer be. Good idea in my book.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-01-2017, 06:49 PM
 
1,021 posts, read 1,664,016 times
Reputation: 1821
Not treating minors who are most likely victims of sex trafficking as criminals is not the same thing as legalizing child prostitution not even if someone wants to try and spin it as such.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-01-2017, 06:52 PM
 
Location: NNJ
15,071 posts, read 10,089,802 times
Reputation: 17247
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment View Post
It is unnecessary, and ridiculous to have the expectation, that all articles on a topic will be completely balanced and express all sides of the issue. Intelligent readers consider more than one source before forming an opinion.
I never said or implied the bolded part.. and my post specifically states that READERS who don't read from multiple sources and take a single source such as the one linked without question yet consider themselves informed should be ashamed.

Also, the article linked is not indicated to be an opinion nor op-ed. It is portrayed as a journalistic report. It is crappy reporting.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-01-2017, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
12,601 posts, read 7,219,689 times
Reputation: 16799
Jesus, what a clickbait title.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-01-2017, 07:04 PM
 
46,943 posts, read 25,964,420 times
Reputation: 29434
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment View Post
The article is expressing a particular opinion.
"You're entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts" is a cliche because it's true. And the headline is flat-out nonfactual.

Quote:
It is unnecessary, and ridiculous to have the expectation, that all articles on a topic will be completely balanced and express all sides of the issue.
Truth vs untruth can hardly be considered different sides of an issue. Child prostitution hasn't been legalized, and that's not a matter of opinion. Crap news sources like the Washington Examiner aren't attempting to enlighten or inform, they're going for emotional impact that feeds into their audience's prejudices.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-01-2017, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
35,679 posts, read 21,030,020 times
Reputation: 14232
Quote:
Originally Posted by don1945 View Post
Once again, you quote from a very biased, alt right publication and stretch the truth. That is NOT what the new law states. Here, read the truth:

Child Prostitution Legalized in California? : snopes.com


All they are saying is the under the age of 18 you will be considered a victim, not a criminal. Anyone who uses their services would still face charges, but the child would be treated differently. This law is in response to sex trafficers who exploit children, and then children have been considered compliant, up until now. We have always had softer laws for minors, this is no different.

But it is more fun to think the Democrats are legalizing child prostitution, isn't it ?

Florida has the same laws-- twist and twerk that's what trumpettes do - make everything seem evil but what is!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-01-2017, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
4,629 posts, read 3,391,398 times
Reputation: 6148
Quote:
Originally Posted by magritte25 View Post
as the op of this horrible thread, i think you should just stop talking altogether. All credibility you've had is gone as far as i'm concerned.
+1
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-01-2017, 07:24 PM
i7pXFLbhE3gq
 
n/a posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by usayit View Post
I've been thinking about this....

I am a supporter for legalization of prostitution. However, child prostitution like human trafficking needs to be eliminated. Since we have laws, courts, and penal systems specific for juveniles, wouldn't it make more sense to have codes that limit punishment of underaged prostitutes? The juvenile system tends to be focused on rehabilitation rather than punishment. So could juvenile prostitution penalties be written for mandatory help (therapy, social work etc) with provisions to have the record expunged and no jail time?

This way police have a more direct code to take children off the streets (and wherever) while getting the "victim" the help they need without the long term impact of an arrest record and jail time.
You know, that's a pretty good idea.

In fact, that's pretty much exactly what this law does!

Facts:
  • Hiring children or forcing them to engage in sex is still illegal
  • Minors caught engaging in prostitution can still be taken into custody
    • The only difference now is that they'll be treated as victims and get help (counseling, maybe being removed from the home, whatever is deemed necessary for their particular case) instead of being tossed in jail and stuck with a criminal record.
California does plenty of nutty things, but this isn't one of those things. This is an excellent step in the right direction that allows minors to get help instead of being prosecuted for a crime they may not have even been a willing participant in.


Of course, the fact that it came out of California is enough for the right wing psychos to immediately attack it as something horrible and paint it as the complete opposite of what it actually is.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-01-2017, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Barrington
63,919 posts, read 46,707,495 times
Reputation: 20674
Quote:
Originally Posted by RacSoc View Post
Use a REAL website and we can talk. Snopes hires hookers and prostitutes and uses google for their "research" so...nah not a real fact checking website.
In this case, Snopes attributes the fake spin to an Alt Right web site.

Minors are viewed as victims instead of criminals which is consistent with consent laws.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:21 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top