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Old 01-03-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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If you were truly literate you would have read some of the articles on the Russian hackers, but you would rather not have to deal with facts you don't believe. /shrug

We know it's not a state party because Assange states so and we know that Russia wasn't responsible because that's what Putin indicated, this is a new world.




http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/31/wo...hevchenko.html

Rather bipartisan support that Russia is responsible, one hell of a conspiracy with both parties and all the intelligence agencies in on this one.




Graham, McCain want Russia sanctions after election hacking | Fox News

So impress me with your literary prowess, certainly you have more than Assange and Putin said so
Big fans of McCain and Graham now? What other ideas of theirs are you going to push? Both are war mongers. Yes they want to start things back up with Russia to keep the war machine funded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQUXuQ6Zd9w
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:08 AM
 
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Russians! Under my bed!: Glenn Reynolds

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they didn’t get upset when Russia invaded Crimea, they didn’t throw down when Russia shot down a civilian airliner over Ukraine, but stealing John Podesta’s password via a phishing scam is apparently grounds for restarting the Cold War.*Well, only one of these crimes constitutes a threat to Democrats’ political power.

It’s easy to mock the Democrats’ hysteria over all this, which seems mostly like an inability to accept that they lost an election they thought was in the bag.*Instead, they blame a password-phishing scam that John Podesta fell for like somebody’s technologically-challenged grandmother. (Another IowaHawk tweet:*“Breaking: State Dept expels 20 Nigerian diplomats after John Podesta fails to receive $1 million wire transfer from nephew of General Okezi.”)*And, partly to cover for Hillary and to delegitimize Trump
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Name one thing that Wikileaks has released that turned out to be false.

I thought so.
They have just released emails on the DNC, that doesn't mean they are a credible source for opinion. Besides, Assange never answered the question as to why the RNC emails were not released, their intent is pretty obvious.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:10 AM
 
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If you were truly literate you would have read some of the articles on the Russian hackers, but you would rather not have to deal with facts you don't believe. /shrug

We know it's not a state party because Assange states so and we know that Russia wasn't responsible because that's what Putin indicated, this is a new world.
So impress me with your literary prowess, certainly you have more than Assange and Putin said so
There are four facts that we know for certain:
  • Assange says the source of the leaks was not the Russian government either direct or indirect.
  • Assange has never said anything that wasn't true.
  • Absolutely no proof has been provided by the Obama Administration, McCain or Graham that the Russian government hacked the DNC server.
  • Obama, McCain, and Graham are documented liars.
If Obama has proof, then let him take it to the UN so Russia can be censured. He doesn't do so, because this is nothing but politics. This should be obvious to any critically thinking adult.





(you do yourself no credit in posting NYTimes articles as proof)
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:10 AM
 
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Big fans of McCain and Graham now? What other ideas of theirs are you going to push? Both are war mongers. Yes they want to start things back up with Russia to keep the war machine funded.
I have disagreed with them in the past, so.


Anyway Trump will tell us all the details today or tomorrow, no one else has this information but him.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Julian Assange calls Obama & Clinton liars on National TV.

Of course anyone with common sense already knows that Russians didn't force Americans to vote for Trump. There were certainly no Russian agents here in North Carolina doing mind control at the polling locations.


HANNITY: Can you say to the American people, unequivocally, that you did not get this information about the DNC, John Podesta's emails, can you tell the American people 1,000 percent that you did not get it from Russia or anybody associated with Russia?

ASSANGE: Yes. We can say, we have said, repeatedly that over the last two months that our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party... Obama is trying to say that President-elect Trump is not a legitimate President.

Assange To Hannity: "Our Source Is Not The Russian Government" | Zero Hedge
Assange and Hannity, sadly these two are hero's to some here, a rapist and a liar.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:12 AM
 
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countries 'hack' each other all the time. And to say Russia 'hacked' the election is a misnomer - it implies they somehow manipulated vote tallies which is NOT what they're being accused of.

DNC and Clinton emails were released by wikileaks (who have GREAT marketing, by the way) - i dont consider that 'hacking' since the emails were readily available due to mishandling of server security and many of the clinton emails were public record released by the FBI!

Democrats love to blame things like email, FBI statements, etc. rather than accept the fact that their policies and candidate were FLAWED!
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:12 AM
 
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They have just released emails on the DNC, that doesn't mean they are a credible source for opinion. Besides, Assange never answered the question as to why the RNC emails were not released, their intent is pretty obvious.
Assange said he didn't have RNC emails.

Should Obama start expelling Nigerian diplomats, because Podesta didn't get his large sum of money back from the Nigerian Prince that he lent $ to?
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:12 AM
 
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Why did wikileaks start putting out the dnc stories one hour after the access Hollywood tape came out?
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Rather bipartisan support that Russia is responsible:
You think that we forgot that many/most Republicans did not want Trump. Some still did not bury the axe. You are not giving us any information that we don't know; nor does it strengthen the government's case when they rounded up anti-Trumpsters.

The Democratic Party is having trouble finding their new identity and the Republicans are also having problems. It will sort itself out and there will be winners and losers. We also know that many Republicans favor open borders; which the new President does not. Trump is brining in disenfranchised Democrats and many Independents into the fold - people that are tired of the direction we were headed in. Some of the old Party will be in trouble come 2018. We just need time to see how it plays out.
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