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Old 01-04-2017, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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tillman... you are residing in a world that you probably helped create.

If you want to be taken seriously when you expect the other side to hold their politicians accountable, is for YOU to hold your side accountable when they screw up.

Did you blame HRC for running a substandard campaign? Or for mishandling emails?

Did you blame the DNC for fudging Sanders out of the running?

Do you hold responsible Obama for the myriad of government positions that his side lost? Or for claiming health care costs would go down and you could keep your doctor?


Yeah... both sides are cheerleaders right now and there is very little objectivity. The best you can do handle your business like you want others to handle themselves. Maybe you do that already... I am unsure.


Exactly right. Where has the outrage been all these years?

As long as people remain party/politician loyal, never calling out their guy or gal for doing a lousy job, for lying, for deceiving, etc., we will NEVER have anyone of quality leading our nation.
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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Obama has gotten away with murder over the last 12 years with the fawning press coverage (and not covering) many of his screw ups. Many of his comments related to race could never have been gotten away with in the reverse, coming from a white president.

Worse, he continual lies to the American public, then when caught in them, he pivots and the liberal MSM allows him to move on.
Like what? Specifically & factually. You know, other than the "I hate him just cuz" poutrage that makes every con look like a foot stamping illogical baby.
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:35 PM
 
Location: California
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Default Imagine if President Obama said these things

But he didn't, what if, what if. what if we don't second guess and live in the real world.
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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But he didn't, what if, what if. what if we don't second guess and live in the real world.
You're right, he didn't because Obama possesses a high level of class that that unfit man child could never come close to attaining.
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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First and foremost, the public in general simply held President Obama to infinitely higher standards than they do Trump.

The people who would have flipped their **** already did. These are the same people who have been calling him a Kenyan Muslim and demanding a birth certificate for literally years now.

Who knows?
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Old 01-04-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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Imagine if Obama's daughters dabbed while Obama was getting sworn in.
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Old 01-04-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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First and foremost, the public in general simply held President Obama to infinitely higher standards than they do Trump.

The people who would have flipped their **** already did. These are the same people who have been calling him a Kenyan Muslim and demanding a birth certificate for literally years now.

Who knows?

The media also lowered the bar for Trump, low IQ, but Trump is good for TV ratings!
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Old 01-04-2017, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Obama would have been impeached!
You really don't know what a president has to do to be impeached, do you. First they have to actually break the law, claiming the Russians helped Hillary get elected would be stupid, but not illegal. Something like, for example, lying under oath, is a crime. Not securing classified documents is a crime that most people would be prosecuted, and impeached, for.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:02 AM
 
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Clinton was found innocent of all charges, no case here.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:07 AM
 
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All things being equal. Imagine if you couldn't accept the fact that you lost the election. Just imagine that if you can.
This is most likely not happening soon......at least not for 4 yrs!
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