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Old 01-05-2017, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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What is your plan, punch the people with more money than you in the face as you raise their taxes?

Nobody is going to like the solution for dealing with our debt problem. Raise taxes on everybody, and cut spending.
There is no need to raise taxes since they are already way too high. Just cut spending.
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Obama raises debt 10 trillion in 8 years (1.25 trillion / year) = good to liberals.
GOP proposes raising debt 8.8 trillion in 10 years (.88 trillion / year) = sky is falling to liberals.

Hypocrites. But of course spending less is totally incomprehensible to the left so it's understandable. Should the spending be even less? Absolutely, at least it's a start instead of constantly spending more.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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The real fun is going to be when the debt ceiling comes up. Because in the past certain Republicans have opposed raising the ceiling. However, if the ceiling is not increased, the government would immediately go into default, or it would trigger large tax increases to cover the spending that has already been incurred. These Republicans, like Ted Cruz, were free to grandstand on this issue because they knew they would lose and not have to face any consequences. Now the shoe is on the other foot.

Some have called for a Balanced Budget amendment, which makes sense, but again that would trigger either massive tax increases or huge spending cuts, or both. There's no way to balance the budget without reducing Social Security and Medicare, which is political poison.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Original post, filled with nonsense...
You didn't read your link, did you?
No. Headlines are much easier and don't require all that tiresome thought.
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But Republicans made it clear in a summary of the resolution that these aren't the real budget numbers they'll be pursuing in the months ahead.
"Following the Obamacare repeal legislation, Congress will then begin its work on a fiscal year 2018 budget resolution, which will include broader policy reforms and a comprehensive plan to achieve long-term fiscal sustainability," the summary said.............
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:35 AM
 
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Let's start with eliminating the home mortgage interest deduction. Why is it so critical that be deductible?
Carryover basis under 1014 needs to be reworked too. Lots of missed revenue.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You didn't read your link, did you?
You have to be someone who cannot put 2 and 2 together to think I didn't

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No. Headlines are much easier and don't require all that tiresome thought.
uote: But Republicans made it clear in a summary of the resolution that these aren't the real budget numbers they'll be pursuing in the months ahead.
"Following the Obamacare repeal legislation, Congress will then begin its work on a fiscal year 2018 budget resolution, which will include broader policy reforms and a comprehensive plan to achieve long-term fiscal sustainability," the summary said.
LMAO So you think that after everything is said and done that budget will end up being cut by 8.8 trillion and it'll be balanced? hahahahahahahahahaha

Let me help you out here since you obviously need it. That budget needs to be gutted and redone because debt is bad. Understand?
Next time you post, I would appreciate it if you educated yourself on how budgets work. Your post wont look so absurd next time. Hopefully.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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Obama raises debt 10 trillion in 8 years (1.25 trillion / year) = good to liberals.
GOP proposes raising debt 8.8 trillion in 10 years (.88 trillion / year) = sky is falling to liberals.

Hypocrites. But of course spending less is totally incomprehensible to the left so it's understandable. Should the spending be even less? Absolutely, at least it's a start instead of constantly spending more.
Missing some logic here.

Need to compare what the next 10 years would be under both plans, not how the last 8 compare to the next 10 years. Apples and oranges.

Obama started with an economy tanking into a recession and turned it around.

Trump will start with an economy that is humming right along.

Find us a link that says what the prediction for the deficit would be under Trump's plan or if we continued as we are going.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:45 AM
 
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The real fun is going to be when the debt ceiling comes up. Because in the past certain Republicans have opposed raising the ceiling. However, if the ceiling is not increased, the government would immediately go into default, or it would trigger large tax increases to cover the spending that has already been incurred. These Republicans, like Ted Cruz, were free to grandstand on this issue because they knew they would lose and not have to face any consequences. Now the shoe is on the other foot.

Some have called for a Balanced Budget amendment, which makes sense, but again that would trigger either massive tax increases or huge spending cuts, or both. There's no way to balance the budget without reducing Social Security and Medicare, which is political poison.
This will be interesting to watch, that's for sure.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:47 AM
 
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Let's start with eliminating the home mortgage interest deduction. Why is it so critical that be deductible?
It encourages people to BUY instead of RENT. Buying builds equity. I provides you with an asset that credit is established against.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:48 AM
 
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I think this déficit is a "conservative" forecast, I trully believe that Debt in USA will dooble in 8 years. why? well After Trump returning Manufacturin through Either Tax cutting or clossing borders that will mean either Déficit Growing or Inflation Skyrocketing, and the government will be forced to increase its debt even more.
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