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Old 01-06-2017, 07:58 AM
 
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The United States and "Russia" (aka. Prussia, USSR, Russia) have been allies and friendly towards one another for the majority of our nations' existance.

We had treaties and alliances signed by Thomas Jefferson. We fought side by side in WW1 and WW2.

Then Stalin destroyed US/Soviet relations with his adherence to Communism, imperialism, and abysmal human rights record.

Reagan famously ended the Cold War when reformist Mikhail Gorbechev promoted Perestroika and Glasnost.

Putin and George W. were friendly and Putin supported our anti-terrorism efforts after 9/11.

Hillary presented a 'reset button' in 2009.

From personal experience, I speak to Russians often via Amateur Radio and visit with them at IT conferences - they LOVE the united states... they are not our enemy.

So tell me liberals - why all of a sudden do we hate the Russians again? They no longer oppress their people, they embrace and encourage capitalism, and generally fight alongside us whenever major conflicts break out.

is this just an example of "the friend of my enemy (Trump) is my enemy"?
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:09 AM
 
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We can't be friends because the Obama administration doesn't like how the Russians run their country. They don't like their "human rights" issues regarding discrimination . The problem is , that is their culture. Nobody should tell someone how to run their country .


The entire Russian scheme is to undermine the truthful information and content of the emails. If you noticed during the debates, Hillary never denied the emails content. She simply confused Americans with the Russian hacking. It created a diversion. All the sudden no one cares about the emails or their damaging content. All they care about is Russian hacking. As you can see in the main stream media. Whats the current headline?
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:11 AM
 
Location: United States
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Because the establishment on the left, and right work for the military industrial complex, and want to restart the cold war.
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:12 AM
 
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Russia has helped the USA many times throughout history. They let their claim to the entire west coast go for almost nothing. They sold us Alaska for a song.

They supported us in the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, WWI and WWII. There is no natural hatred here.
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
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The United States and "Russia" (aka. Prussia, USSR, Russia) have been allies and friendly towards one another for the majority of our nations' existance.
Sorry for the offtopic, but I have to say that: Prussia is an entirely different place! It is a historical region that now forms parts of Germany and Poland, but has NOTHING to do with Russia.

On everything else you are pretty much right.
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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The United States and "Russia" (aka. Prussia, USSR, Russia) have been allies and friendly towards one another for the majority of our nations' existance.

We had treaties and alliances signed by Thomas Jefferson. We fought side by side in WW1 and WW2.

Then Stalin destroyed US/Soviet relations with his adherence to Communism, imperialism, and abysmal human rights record.

Reagan famously ended the Cold War when reformist Mikhail Gorbechev promoted Perestroika and Glasnost.

Putin and George W. were friendly and Putin supported our anti-terrorism efforts after 9/11.

Hillary presented a 'reset button' in 2009.

From personal experience, I speak to Russians often via Amateur Radio and visit with them at IT conferences - they LOVE the united states... they are not our enemy.

So tell me liberals - why all of a sudden do we hate the Russians again? They no longer oppress their people, they embrace and encourage capitalism, and generally fight alongside us whenever major conflicts break out.

is this just an example of "the friend of my enemy (Trump) is my enemy"?
The Russian People are not our Enemies.
The Russian Leaders on the other hand are not our Friends.
Simple as that.
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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The United States and "Russia" (aka. Prussia, USSR, Russia) have been allies and friendly towards one another for the majority of our nations' existance.

We had treaties and alliances signed by Thomas Jefferson. We fought side by side in WW1 and WW2.

Then Stalin destroyed US/Soviet relations with his adherence to Communism, imperialism, and abysmal human rights record.

Reagan famously ended the Cold War when reformist Mikhail Gorbechev promoted Perestroika and Glasnost.

Putin and George W. were friendly and Putin supported our anti-terrorism efforts after 9/11.

Hillary presented a 'reset button' in 2009.

From personal experience, I speak to Russians often via Amateur Radio and visit with them at IT conferences - they LOVE the united states... they are not our enemy.

So tell me liberals - why all of a sudden do we hate the Russians again? They no longer oppress their people, they embrace and encourage capitalism, and generally fight alongside us whenever major conflicts break out.

is this just an example of "the friend of my enemy (Trump) is my enemy"?
Russians don't like gay people! They are hateful, misogynistic, racist, anti-illegal-immigration and anti-gay just like Trump.
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Russia has tremendous natural resources - it is almost three times the size of the US. It would be very wise to find common ground and could be mutually beneficial. It is a far better plan than turning half the planet into a radioactive cinder.
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:17 AM
 
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The United States and "Russia" (aka. Prussia, USSR, Russia) have been allies and friendly towards one another for the majority of our nations' existance.

We had treaties and alliances signed by Thomas Jefferson. We fought side by side in WW1 and WW2.

Then Stalin destroyed US/Soviet relations with his adherence to Communism, imperialism, and abysmal human rights record.

Reagan famously ended the Cold War when reformist Mikhail Gorbechev promoted Perestroika and Glasnost.

Putin and George W. were friendly and Putin supported our anti-terrorism efforts after 9/11.

Hillary presented a 'reset button' in 2009.

From personal experience, I speak to Russians often via Amateur Radio and visit with them at IT conferences - they LOVE the united states... they are not our enemy.

So tell me liberals - why all of a sudden do we hate the Russians again? They no longer oppress their people, they embrace and encourage capitalism, and generally fight alongside us whenever major conflicts break out.

is this just an example of "the friend of my enemy (Trump) is my enemy"?
If we can be friends with the Saudis and the Chinese, I don't see any reason we can't be friends with the democratic Russia.

We don't need to be allies but we should be friendly to each other and find mutually beneficial grounds.
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
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Russians don't like gay people! They are hateful, misogynistic, racist, anti-illegal-immigration and anti-gay just like Trump.
Way to paint an entire huge nation with a broad brush!

And then they whine when someone generalizes about them in the same way...
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