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Old 01-06-2017, 06:11 PM
 
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Thank goodness we have a military and a police force. Being trained to shoot a gun isn't what causes people to commit mass murder.

Right now we just don't know enough about the shooter and anything you or I assume isn't based on fact.

According to Reuters,

"Santiago served from 2007 to 2016 in the Puerto Rico National Guard and Alaska National Guard including a deployment to Iraq from 2010 to 2011, according to the Pentagon. A private first class and combat engineer, he received half a dozen medals before being transferred to the inactive ready reserve in August last year."

"A private first class and combat engineer, he received half a dozen medals before being transferred to the inactive ready reserve in August last year."

Still, nobody knows why he decided to shoot innocent people today.
I think they have a pretty good idea that he had significant mental issues after he reported to the FBI that he was hearing voices in his head (the CIA he said) telling him to listen to ISIS videos--
FBI said he was almost incoherent at some points and they called local police who told him he needed a mental evaluation...
Supposedly he had that and was getting "treatment"

The issue for me is why did he still have access to a weapon if he was delusional?????
ONLY SANE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO OWN GUNS!!!!

Some people--and I don't mean that shooter--should reflect on THEIR actions regarding this incident...
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:12 PM
 
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ISIS made me do it.
That is just not funny...from any standpoint...
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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That is just not funny...from any standpoint...
It's either laugh or cry.

Pick your side, because you'd better get used to this. It isn't going to get better from here on out.

I hope you have a really dark sense of humor.
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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The shooter was from New Jersey...hmm, a dead end since there seems to be no connection between New Jersey and terrorism.
And his name is...Esteban Santiago -- a dead end since only white men kill people.
Hmm, perhaps the shooter converted to Islam? Oh shucks, but yeah, that's a dead end too. Everyone knows Islam is the Religion of Peace.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd8cRvZZv44
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:16 PM
 
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Do you have any idea how many people with mental health issues are wandering around Alaska?

Some days it felt like everyone with a loose screw had rolled into the state. Anchorage has one of the last remaining state psychiatric hospitals and the units stay full. There's also an inpatient respite center and inpatient mental health units at the hospitals.

The Alaska Department of Corrections is the largest provider of in-patient psychiatric services in the state.

And this is just inpatient. Ton of folks with severe mental health issues on the street. The Anchorage police department has Crisis Intervention Teams to deal with all the mental issues they deal with on a daily basis.

I can't tell you how many people in Alaska believe they are undercover CIA agents, or Russian spies, or ... They will tell you this in strict confidence if you promise not to tell anyone else.

One woman was serious as a heart attack when she told me that Hugh Jackman had stolen her heart and six pints of blood.

I don't know why Alaska attracts the crazy folks, but it does.

I'd bet good money that he was not the first one to wander in and claiming he was working with ISIS.

Likely not the first one this week.
LOL, ok. Anything but islam

Wake up people. Stop being PC, there is clearly a problem.
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:16 PM
 
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At first I thought your post was sarcastic, but I'm not so sure. Do you actually believe everyone should have been carrying automatic weapons when they were picking up their luggage?

By the way, Obama never took away automatic weapons. They were banned in the 1930s.

If you're talking about semi-automatic weapons, please show me any bills Obama passed that banned these guns.
Yes it is /s


Lunacy isn't a valid position. It only belongs in a mental institution. But basically that's the argument Briebart's been spewing since this event took place.
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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In my workplace active shooter training at work, we were told that rushing the 'shooter' was the last resort. The former police person who led the training told us to try and get out first. If that failed, we were to hide behind a locked door or other place with phones completely turned off. The last action was to rush the shooter. What if there is more than one shooter and while you are rushing one person, the other one shoots you? It's always easy to say 'yeah, I would have thrown luggage or rushed the shooter' when you are not in that situation but the reality is often more confusing and terrifying.

I have no idea why it took so long for security at the airport to neutralize the target.
Have ya been to the FTL airport? Not a lot works there (just try to get out of the garage with your Sunpass--it's like Hotel California--you can check in, but never leave), half the time you cannot find anyone in authority to answer any questions whatsoever and most of their 'security' is outside telling cars they cannot stop. The thought process is that the danger is outside the terminal (suicide bombers?).

I'll take the WPB airport any day over FTL, if possible.
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Expect more violence in this country from Jihadist, BLM, Left Socialist, disenfranchised Americans and soon right wing white nationalist when Trump betrays them. Not my problem. If cops get killed, people get blown up, gays get massacred, not my problem. Just another day in America. This past fall their was a bombing here in NYC. I couldn't careless.
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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The shooter was from New Jersey...hmm, a dead end since there seems to be no connection between New Jersey and terrorism.
And his name is...Esteban Santiago -- a dead end since only white men kill people.
Hmm, perhaps the shooter converted to Islam? Oh shucks, but yeah, that's a dead end too. Everyone knows Islam is the Religion of Peace.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd8cRvZZv44
It is my understanding that bullets only harm bad people: libruls, immigrants, blacks, the scary colored people who don't mow our lawns, the scary colored people who do mow our lawns, and everyone who makes cowboys and Donald Trump shed a tear.

Therefore, the only dead people are terrorists. This must be true, because upthread someone claimed to do it, and only ISIS has the internet figured out.
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:24 PM
 
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Yes lets make innocent people even more vulnerable to random whack jobs. Hey there is always govt security to protect them like they did here, right?
Baggage claim is an open area--you don't go through security to get there in any US airport I have been to
FL is state where lot of people have carry permits--
Neighbors in my subdivision brag about it
So it was possible that someone meeting an arrival could have had gun on his/her person...maybe they were too freaked out to pull it...

Just like there are security scattered through the airport and surely there are cameras that are being watched at central command so that security can check baggage thieves or any other illegal activity...
It seems like security was slow to arrive from when he started to shoot...but I haven't flown out of there so don't know layout of terminals and where control points are

I imagine there is going to be lot of finger pointing by security on site and local police but the real issue is that it could have happened at any airport at any time in the past---with this policy about carrying weapons in checked luggage and ammo and having access as soon as luggage come down...

We have been in DFW (home airport) and seen hunters with their rifles being logged in to go on hunting trips...
It is possible that any of those guys could have done something similar at their destination IF THEY HAD THE COMPULSION/DESIRE like this shooter did...
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