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Old 01-08-2017, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Sex chromosomes determine gender. They don't mutate. There is no "choice" in what gender one is when one is either XY or XX. Scientific fact.
They don't mutate? Please explain how it is that sex chromosomes, unlike ANY OTHER chromosomes, are prohibited from mutating.

No, I'm not contradicting myself. But I find your misconceptions too entertaining to not follow up on them.

Here's a hint - genetic expression is not a rote, mechanical process. It is a developmental one, with many interlocking steps, and is greatly affected by environment.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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You just won't answer the questions because the answers are unpalatable to you.
Maybe that's your reason for not answering questions?

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This isn't about attraction. It's about actual physical anatomy. The same as has always been true in facilities that distinguish by gender.
Why do you think that this is important?
How is it not? Are there not multiple occupancy facilities that separate use by gender pretty much everywhere? If it wasn't important, all public facilities would be unisex. Note that such is not the case.
Appeal to tradition fallacy
I'll ask again, why is it important?
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I take them at face value whatever sex they say, I do t care. Just like the Internet, if they claim to be female then they are female. If they claim to be male then they are male.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Who lives in another person's skin?
Whose mind lives in another person?

I don't care how anyone else defines themselves or who they self-identify as being. But then, I'm pretty comfortable being me and always have been. I have no great need to try to make anyone conform with anything at all, except avoiding criminality.

That doesn't mean I don't get to choose who I like or don't. I try to avoid judging others by first impressions or externals, as best as I can; I do, sometimes, but I'm not particularly proud of it.

More often, I feel a bit of sympathy for those whose lives are obviously hard to live. I am often glad I don't have the problems I sometimes see in others.

But I don't try to fix anyone else, because I do have my own internal problems and imperfections that always need some work.

I always thought Jesus was very smart when he talked about casting the first stone.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Of course there isn't. Because exactly NO ONE, besides you, thinks that is the issue.
Really? No one but me thinks that gender is determined via having either an XY or XX DNA profile?

Are you daft?
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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They don't mutate? Please explain how it is that sex chromosomes, unlike ANY OTHER chromosomes, are prohibited from mutating.
If they mutate from XX to XY or vice versa after birth, please... by all means... cite an example.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Really? No one but me thinks that gender is determined via having either an XY or XX DNA profile?

Are you daft?
That isn't what I said, and you know it.

No one BUT YOU thinks that transgenderism is a result of XX chromosomes mutating into XY chromosomes, or vice versa.


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If they mutate from XX to XY or vice versa after birth, please... by all means... cite an example.
See above.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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Really? No one but me thinks that gender is determined via having either an XY or XX DNA profile?

Are you daft?
Definition of gender
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gender
NOUN

1[mass noun] The state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones):
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Who lives in another person's skin?
Whose mind lives in another person?

I don't care how anyone else defines themselves or who they self-identify as being. But then, I'm pretty comfortable being me and always have been. I have no great need to try to make anyone conform with anything at all, except avoiding criminality.

That doesn't mean I don't get to choose who I like or don't. I try to avoid judging others by first impressions or externals, as best as I can; I do, sometimes, but I'm not particularly proud of it.

More often, I feel a bit of sympathy for those whose lives are obviously hard to live. I am often glad I don't have the problems I sometimes see in others.

But I don't try to fix anyone else, because I do have my own internal problems and imperfections that always need some work.

I always thought Jesus was very smart when he talked about casting the first stone.
No one needs to be fixed. If they truly want to believe they're a pink pony or whatever, so be it. But do we really need to be letting anatomical males into girls' school multiple occupancy open locker/shower rooms? No. The minor girls are uneasy with the opposite sex seeing them in various stages of undress, and likewise they don't want to be unwillingly subjected to being in the presence of a semi-naked or naked anatomical male.

Do people really not understand that?
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:49 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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That isn't what I said, and you know it.

No one BUT YOU thinks that transgenderism is a result of XX chromosomes mutating into XY chromosomes, or vice versa.
I didn't say it was. What I said is that an XY who claims to be a girl is lying. That person is not a girl.
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