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Old 01-08-2017, 06:02 AM
 
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Gee, I don't know - maybe because there were "Help Wanted" signs in windows all over the place when I was there just a couple of months ago?
Or do you think that businesses that are hurting would be looking for workers?



Ken
So you judge a situation with anecdotal accounting... interesting.... you realize that is looked down upon as evidence... so if a business is failing but it has help wanted signs it's okay... or if one business out of twenty has a sign, that's good too... not exactly inspiring any confidence... is there a methodology in judging help wanted sign that has a direct correlation to how much a business is thriving?
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:04 AM
 
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It's actually $11 in your chart for small employers... and that's for THIS year which just started... what I find more interesting is minimum wage goes to over $18 in the future... wow
No, its not. Its $13 now for small employers who dont provide health insurance to their employees.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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It is when the article fails to mention that the law has not taken effect yet.




Yeah, but, but...
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:06 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Minimum Wage

Link to actual Washington State Dept. of Labor & Industries. Sorry it's not a crappy blog like you post.
That's WASHINGTON STATE - NOT SEATTLE. Seattle has a higher minimum wage than the state does.

Ken
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:06 AM
 
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Folks - before believing everything you read - go to the Seattle forum - there you will get a better understanding of what's really going on. Even when you have real resident opinions with a click of your finger - you fail to research and believe what the media tells you - don't they make students do research papers anymore?

Quote from a discussion on the matter in the Seattle forum:

"There's no real evidence yet. The astonishing run-up of tech jobs is skewing the numbers quite a bit. Each high-paid tech job supports a handful of other jobs due to the multiplier effect."

An actual presentation of the ordinance:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/seatt...-min-wage.html
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:12 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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So you judge a situation with anecdotal accounting... interesting.... you realize that is looked down upon as evidence... so if a business is failing but it has help wanted signs it's okay... or if one business out of twenty has a sign, that's good too... not exactly inspiring any confidence... is there a methodology in judging help wanted sign that has a direct correlation to how much a business is thriving?
It's not JUST "anecdotal". Seattle UE rate is a mere 3.5% - REALLY LOW. So, low UE rate combined with lots of "help wanted" signs in restaurant windows....
You should be able to connect the dots.
Seattle is BOOMING - and has been for several years now.

Ken
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:12 AM
 
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Excuses are ready as usual when the doom and gloom didnt happen as the right predicted. This was very predictable. Because no minimum wage increase in the past has led to the doom and gloom you guys predict. Its interesting because working stiffs like Trump supporters are the ones who benefit from minimum wage increases because it benefits far more than just the people earning minimum wage. Working stiffs massively improve their bargaining power as a result, but lots of right wingers kick and scream as progressives drag them into higher wages and a better quality of life.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:12 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Probably the only raises Op has had in years.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:13 AM
 
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No, its not. Its $13 now for small employers who dont provide health insurance to their employees.
It's a bit confusing because the say..

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$13.00 an hour if you work at a smaller company or chain with less than 500 employees nationally and do not receive tips or healthcare benefits from your employer.
So if you do get tips than it's $11 an hour.... or if you do get health benefits, you get $11 an hour... you could actually be paid LESS because tips and healthcare expenses are factored in to your hourly wage... so technically you could be paid $8 an hour as long as health benefits and tips make up the difference...
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:15 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Yes indeed.

The effect of this law won't be felt by restaurants for years. Yet the OP proclaims the "experiment is over".

/thread fail
Again, EVEN RESTAURANTS have started to be affected. The FULL EFFECT is not yet taken place but minimum wages have ALREADY started to increase even for restaurants (that started a year ago) - and so far there's been no apparent adverse affects.

Ken
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