Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-10-2017, 09:31 AM
 
19,573 posts, read 8,448,569 times
Reputation: 10096

Advertisements

The answer to "the Russia stuff" is to secure your networks better.

As long as we engage in the same sorts of shenanigans towards other countries - and we do - we will not be taken seriously by Russia, China, Germany, or any other country when an outgoing administration that was recently humiliated at the polls starts whining and crying about this sort of thing as they are packing up to clear out their offices.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-10-2017, 09:39 AM
 
4,491 posts, read 2,209,831 times
Reputation: 1992
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
The answer to "the Russia stuff" is to secure your networks better.

As long as we engage in the same sorts of shenanigans towards other countries - and we do - we will not be taken seriously by Russia, China, Germany, or any other country when an outgoing administration that was recently humiliated at the polls starts whining and crying about this sort of thing as they are packing up to clear out their offices.
An outgoing administration was not humiliated. The outgoing administration, the Obama administration, was not up for re-election and therefore could not lose. The what would have been Clinton administration, even if similar, is distinct from the Obama administration. I know in a world of perfect dichotomies (because that's easier to sell to dumb people), we view things as two ideologically opposed viewpoints, locked in eternal conflict, but that's not really how the world works. Your supporting of this view makes you part of the problem, the problem of America's declining intellectual populace. So thanks for that...

As for what we do, it's not about securing out networks. Yes, us taking action makes us hypocrites. The solution is to stop intervening in world affairs and respect the sovereignty of other nations. If it were up to me, I'd up our involvement in the UN and take a clear stance; countries that engage in cyber attacks are enemies of UN and the US. I'd give Russia a final warning; your hacking of the DNC emails are forgiven but future action will be punished without concern for your wellbeing. And it goes without saying, all US based cyber attacks on allies and non-combative states would be discontinued immediately and all information stored on these nations would be handed back to those respective nations.

If the US is going to act as if it's a moral beacon for the world. It should act like it. This is, in my mind, what we would have to do (or at least something similar.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-10-2017, 09:44 AM
 
624 posts, read 368,097 times
Reputation: 338
Mccain and Graham just want that big check by going to war. We're in 20 trillion in debt. Two months ago Putin ordered his people back home.
This war would be the dumbest because they were exposed and George Soros will do anything to bring Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump down.
China has been hacking us for years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-10-2017, 09:44 AM
 
19,573 posts, read 8,448,569 times
Reputation: 10096
skepticratic,

We are not going to stop hacking other countries though, as I am confident you know very well.

Also, anyone who doesn't secure their data a lot better than the DNC did here should probably expect to have it stolen and used against them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-10-2017, 11:40 AM
 
Location: USA
13,255 posts, read 12,071,020 times
Reputation: 4228
It bothers me more what was found by the hacks, then the hacks themselves.

So much stuff.

Including the propping of Black Lives Matter, and avoidance of the core issue. Schemes against the private sector. Screwing Bernie. Etc. Etc.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-10-2017, 11:43 AM
 
5,717 posts, read 3,123,414 times
Reputation: 7374
Or maybe not set your password to obama08. Stupid democrats.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-10-2017, 11:44 AM
 
20,393 posts, read 12,287,178 times
Reputation: 10168
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luvbostons7489 View Post
Mccain and Graham just want that big check by going to war. We're in 20 trillion in debt. Two months ago Putin ordered his people back home.
This war would be the dumbest because they were exposed and George Soros will do anything to bring Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump down.
China has been hacking us for years.
you do realize its the democrats that seem to be beating the war drum with Russia. and its the incoming republican admin that is trying its best to stop that war drum beating?




probably not. its probably more in keeping with your politics to accuse republicans of whatever you can find to see if it will stick.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-10-2017, 11:46 AM
 
14,295 posts, read 9,631,659 times
Reputation: 4254
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
The answer to "the Russia stuff" is to secure your networks better.

As long as we engage in the same sorts of shenanigans towards other countries - and we do - we will not be taken seriously by Russia, China, Germany, or any other country when an outgoing administration that was recently humiliated at the polls starts whining and crying about this sort of thing as they are packing up to clear out their offices.
The DNC was not "hacked" they were morons who fell for a scam. Don't fall for internet scams.

The same scam was tried on the RNC and their email software pruned out the phishing email.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-10-2017, 11:47 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
25,344 posts, read 16,989,062 times
Reputation: 36934
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luvbostons7489 View Post
Mccain and Graham just want that big check by going to war. We're in 20 trillion in debt. Two months ago Putin ordered his people back home.
This war would be the dumbest because they were exposed and George Soros will do anything to bring Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump down.
China has been hacking us for years.
Oh, of course they do!


Haven't you seen the resolution calling for a war and for immediate bombing?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-10-2017, 11:47 AM
 
Location: United States
12,390 posts, read 7,046,921 times
Reputation: 6134
Trying in influence the outcome of elections is something that has always been done by almost every developed nation.

Don't be fooled by thinking this is something new, this has been going on for hundreds of years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top