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Old 01-10-2017, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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At least it's trying to fix a massive liberal failure.
For this liberal, the ACA was never anything but an example of "it ain't great, but it's all we could get".

I'd wave the ACA goodbye in a heartbeat for some version of universal health care. But I'm pretty sure that's not on your agenda.

I like the idea of medicare-for-all because the gov actively negotiates on drug prices and procedure costs.

The problem is how to take care of the initial buy-in. That could be solved, I think.

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Old 01-10-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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I didn't see anything in there about covering pre-existing conditions. To me, any plan MUST cover pre-existing conditions. Not having to cover them was abused by the insurance industries and it's not right. So i don't really care what is proposed and how it works for a healthy individual with a job and no medical issues. I want to know how it works for that person with cancer and is searching for insurance. How it works for that person laid off because of a recession. how the low income people can sign on. I'm sure some of you will say screw em...it's their fault for not signing up. well, i don't believe in that.
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Old 01-10-2017, 02:28 PM
 
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For this liberal, the ACA was never anything but an example of "it ain't great, but it's all we could get".

I'd wave the ACA goodbye in a heartbeat for some version of universal health care. But I'm pretty sure that's not on your agenda.
I'd sign up for universal too. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. Also, even if the ACA is replaced, it did it's job in that it forced Republicans to come to the table. They fought against it and wanted to leave everything status quo. By having the deal with ACA, they had to be part of the solution.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:16 PM
 
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At least it's trying to fix a massive liberal failure.
You mean the program conceived in the uber-conservative think tank, the Heritage Foundation, and touted by Conservatives as a way to make sure everybody paid something into the system? Funny how it was only when it was backed by a Democrat that it suddenly turned into a liberal idea.

I'd rather have the real liberal plan which is universal healthcare, like every other first world nation in the world manages to provide for their citizens, but you Conservative Neanderthals will never allow us join the rest of the civilized world.

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Old 01-10-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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Who is AMAC and what makes it likely that their plan is the one the GOP will will try to implement?
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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So if you have a chronic condition that meets the deductible yearly, do you just keep taking out loans?

I'm 5 years out of cancer treatment and my follow up cost easily tops $10,000 a year. Heck - that's one visit with my oncologist for bloodwork and scans!
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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So if you have a chronic condition that meets the deductible yearly, do you just keep taking out loans?

I'm 5 years out of cancer treatment and my follow up cost easily tops $10,000 a year. Heck - that's one visit with my oncologist for bloodwork and scans!
That's what I'm wondering. Does the $100 a month pay for those tests and office visits? IF the $100 only covers a primary care doctor anyone needing ongoing care from any type of specialist is screwed.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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I didn't see anything in there about covering pre-existing conditions.
The plan has you pay for the healthcare with your own money that you set aside in a healthcare savings account. Since you are paying with your own money, it seems they don't care what you spend it on as long as it qualifies as healthcare. If you run out of money they give you a loan. The insurance company isn't paying anything, it seems. The money comes out of your own acct. The only thing you get from insurance is the basic care from the primary doctor like shots and checkups. That's a drop in the bucket compared to the real large costs of healthcare - which you pay out of your own money.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:53 PM
 
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You mean the program conceived in the uber-conservative think tank, the Heritage Foundation, and touted by Conservatives as a way to make sure everybody paid something into the system? Funny how it was only when it was backed by a Democrat that it suddenly turned a liberal idea.

I'd rather have the real liberal plan which is universal healthcare, like every other first world nation in the world manages to provide for their citizens, but you Conservative Neanderthals will never allow us join the rest of the civilized world.
Then your idiot hero should have pushed for that instead of that disaster that was foisted on the people. He had a majority and could have gotten single payer.

You liberals own it. All.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:06 PM
 
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Gee, why hasn't anyone considered saving their own money and paying for themselves before? It's such a fool-proof plan .
People DID do that before, but Obamacare called those JUNK plans and got rid of them. And mandated that single men pay for maternity benefits and annual mammograms, etc.
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