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The wall won't solve the problem and will cost $10-15M per mile, we need to invest in our infrastructure not some boondoggle. I don't know what anyone would believe that Mexico would pay for a wall that we want.
Oh, Mexico will want the wall when faced with much more costly alternatives.
All of this pretending that the US can't compel Mexico to pay for the wall is outright childish.
We get it, you don't like Trump, but that has no bearing on the fact that Mexico has no possible way to resist paying for the wall.
It will be even less so after Jan. 20th.
For God's sake, Kellyanne Conway said as much yesterday when she explained to our great nation that we should judge “what’s in his heart” rather than “what’s come out of his mouth”.
It doesn't get more clear than that...
I have a neighbor and we get along alright, but there's one thing that bugs me. His dog keeps coming in my yard tearing up my flower bed and digging holes.
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A better analogy here is the law of free-range land. I used to live next to a free-range area and cows that were grazing on the land used to wonder onto my land and do damage to things, like leaning against my car and putting a dent in it and breaking water pipes for irrigation (this is all true). But since it is free-range land the obligation is on us to keep the cows out, not on the cow owner to keep his cows fenced in.
Another way to look at it is that Mexico is not a prison and it is not obligated to fence its citizens in.
I don't have a problem with building a fence but I think it is ridiculous that Trump somehow thinks that Mexico should pay for it.
That is FAKE. US only supports War on Drugs, not anything else, and it is because Drugaddiction in USA is so big that once the Drug reaches to the Border it is like USA unable to take that Drug out of its Streets.
About keeping your flowers from my dog that is Your responsability, because it would not necesarilly be My dog but whoever else Dog is going through.
I have a neighbor and we get along alright, but there's one thing that bugs me. His dog keeps coming in my yard tearing up my flower bed and digging holes.
It doesn't really affect our friendship that much, though sometimes it gets old. I still loan him money on occasion and let him borrow my tools when he needs to. We take their kids to school when we take ours in the mornings and their kids stay at my house after school until one of them gets home from work and sometimes my wife and I watch their kids when they have their "date night", etc.
So I came up with a brilliant idea. I am going to erect a fence that will keep his dog out of my yard. I asked him if he would help with the cost, because after all, I wouldn't need the fence if his dog stayed in his own yard, but he said that was "unacceptable".
So what will happen is I will pay for the fence, but rest assured he will ultimately pay for it.
I will stop loaning him money and tools and make him buy his own. I will stop watching his kids after school and he'll have to pony up for daycare and a baby-sitter for date night. He might THINK he isn't going to pay for it, but in the end he will pay for that fence and then some just on general principle.
Excellent analogy.
This is the point Trump and his people have been trying to make: it's not about Mexico cutting a check.
Mexico will pay in so many other ways. Just the remittances that won't be sent to help Mexico's economy and that will stay in this country helping our economy are in the multi billions. American remittances are the second
highest economic resource for Mexico after oil and gas.
A better analogy here is the law of free-range land. I used to live next to a free-range area and cows that were grazing on the land used to wonder onto my land and do damage to things, like leaning against my car and putting a dent in it and breaking water pipes for irrigation (this is all true). But since it is free-range land the obligation is on us to keep the cows out, not on the cow owner to keep his cows fenced in.
Another way to look at it is that Mexico is not a prison and it is not obligated to fence its citizens in.
I don't have a problem with building a fence but I think it is ridiculous that Trump somehow thinks that Mexico should pay for it.
It's true that Mexico is not obligated to keep it's citizens in it's country.
However, it could easily be made so that it would be in Mexico's best economic interests to do so.
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