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Old 01-12-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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Since at least the Kennedy vs Nixon election back in 1960 and probably even before then, Russia has pushed propaganda that would help their preferred candidate and hurt the other. Not only interfering in elections but a general sowing seeds of mistrust and division as in the late 60s and 70's with the whole MLK assassination, the Jewish Defense League and well into the 80's with them pushing the slogan "Reagan means war". There is even evidence that Ted Kennedy was working with and aiding them in pushing their propaganda.

All of this is well known and well documented, but somehow for THIS election, after over 50 years all of a sudden it is the most serious threat to democracy as we know it.

How is that exactly??
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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Butthurtness has them grasping for anything hoping it will soothe their backsides.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:14 AM
 
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You should probably explain where you get this premise that it is a new phenomenon.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:14 AM
 
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Because it is Trump, period. The hypocrisy is absurd.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:19 AM
 
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This just in: The US has NEVER meddled in another countries affairs, elections, etc...EVER.


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Old 01-12-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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Since at least the Kennedy vs Nixon election back in 1960 and probably even before then, Russia has pushed propaganda that would help their preferred candidate and hurt the other. Not only interfering in elections but a general sowing seeds of mistrust and division as in the late 60s and 70's with the whole MLK assassination, the Jewish Defense League and well into the 80's with them pushing the slogan "Reagan means war". There is even evidence that Ted Kennedy was working with and aiding them in pushing their propaganda.

All of this is well known and well documented, but somehow for THIS election, after over 50 years all of a sudden it is the most serious threat to democracy as we know it.

How is that exactly??
OK... Let's walk through this. Using your own understanding of Russia's past actions... When has Russia's efforts ever been in the best interest of the US or our allies?
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:38 AM
 
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OK... Let's walk through this. Using your own understanding of Russia's past actions... When has Russia's efforts ever been in the best interest of the US or our allies?

Oh i don't know, heat in the winter? Buying Europe's produce. Launching stuff into space after our crap exploded too much?


When has starting color revolutions, ethnically cleansing their friends and smearing them in the media done for them?
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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When Unions got strong in USA all Unión leaders were suspected of being Comunist Russian Friends, Jimmy Hoffa as an example, they were put under investigation and even harashed, now that Trump is Trully Russian Totalitarian friend, conservatives defend him like an American Idol.
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:40 AM
 
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Because we suddenly have a bunch of idiots that think that influence from Russia is a good thing.
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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You should probably explain where you get this premise that it is a new phenomenon.
The new phenomenon is the scale of the reaction. i also cannot think of a single country that does not influence us. Should we be watching the BBC? Foreign influence ya know. Strange to see the left become the right wing. Russophobia, war mongering, attack on the first amendment, authoritarianism, cozying up to Wall Street. wtahca doing hanging out with these people? Dontcha remember me from the occupy days ? Where did ya go? Ya didn't start stumping for the Nazis did ya?
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