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Old 01-13-2017, 12:36 PM
 
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I see you are one of those posters
Just more shilling from you. Time and time again, the puppets you desperately support have struck down bills and amendments to import safe drugs from Canada so people dont have to choose between food and life saving drugs. This is nothing new. It has nothing to do with the excuses you make up. The opposition is always the same; members of Congress on the pharma payroll (most GOP senators and a minority of Democrats).
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Old 01-13-2017, 12:49 PM
 
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Pharmaceutical companies cant donate that much money to an individual candidate, what the numbers people are posting show is all donations to Booker from employees of anyone who works for a Bio Tech or Pharmaceutical company.

Which just so happens to be concentrated in New Jersey making up 1/5 of Booker's constituency.


also no, the law didnt allow you to buy a single drug, it allowed companies/pharmacies to import them.

And it claimed it would do so in a way that was revenue neutral which is impossible.
Far more so than Obamacare.
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Old 01-13-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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The government has NO BUSINESS in a free society with "lowering" or "raising" or "interfering" with drug prices in any way shape or form. The will of the people BE DAMNED if the WILL OF THE PEOPLE is tyranny over private markets.


There is no right to drugs, no right to medical care, no right to enslave doctors or hospitals or companies that INVENT THE DRUGS that keep us alive longer and better.


What a bunch of presumptuous entitled pipsqueaks that think it is OK for the government, using the police power of the state, to "lower drug prices".


You people need to read what FREE COUNTRY means.


Disgracia!
Freedom isn't being allowed to buy your drugs from your supplier of choice?
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Old 01-13-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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I see you are one of those posters pretends he didnt read the rest of a post by simply cropping it out of the quote in your reply.

Lets try this again. Bernie Sanders and Amy Klobuchar said in their amendment that the importation of drugs had to be revenue neutral.

While that is in and of itself possible, it would require cuts somewhere else since it is a budget amendment. Neither Sanders or Klobuchar are willing to name those cuts, and therefore offered an amendment that was not possible in its concept.

Why do you ignore that fact ???
If people on say Medicare or Medicaid can buy their drugs from cheaper sources they are going to save the government a ton of money.
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Old 01-13-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Just more shilling from you. Time and time again, the puppets you desperately support have struck down bills and amendments to import safe drugs from Canada so people dont have to choose between food and life saving drugs. This is nothing new. It has nothing to do with the excuses you make up. The opposition is always the same; members of Congress on the pharma payroll (most GOP senators and a minority of Democrats).
And yet, you cant even bring yourself to mention it in a quote.


Ask yourself this, why did Bernie argue that it should be revenue neutral , and not simply propose a law allowing unrestricted purchase ?????
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Old 01-13-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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Freedom isn't being allowed to buy your drugs from your supplier of choice?
Actually, you should be able to buy drugs, without restriction, from any country you choose. In this case, we are being tyrannized by our own government. Again.
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Old 01-13-2017, 04:58 PM
 
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Actually, you should be able to buy drugs, without restriction, from any country you choose. In this case, we are being tyrannized by our own government. Again.
You can look at it that way but it was at least expanding freedom even if not as much as some would like.
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Old 01-13-2017, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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You can look at it that way but it was at least expanding freedom even if not as much as some would like.
This law didnt allow you as an individual to buy drugs. it would have allowed the government to import them instead of buying domestic.
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Old 01-13-2017, 05:12 PM
 
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This law didnt allow you as an individual to buy drugs. it would have allowed the government to import them instead of buying domestic.
Just for the sake of argument let's say that is true. So what? That sure beats making it illegal to negotiate the price of drugs like Obamacare did.
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Old 01-13-2017, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Just for the sake of argument let's say that is true. So what? That sure beats making it illegal to negotiate the price of drugs like Obamacare did.
Can you cite where in Obamacare it made it illegal to negotiate drug prices ????

As for "so what?" well, it negates your argument about individuals and purchasing drugs.

You are back to talking about the government and companies/pharmacies purchasing drugs. Which again, isnt revenue neutral.


I'll attack Booker's stance on this when Sanders and Amy Klobuchar out forth a bill separate of the budget and he votes that down.
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