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Old 01-12-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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Carson said he didn't have the expertise to be part of trump cabinet. After he ran
for president.

Trump nominated him because he's AA and grew up poor. Ridiculous.
So you're against affirmative action and giving opportunities to diversity applicants? Racist.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So, a Trump company brings in a plan to construct housing which would be eligible for a HUD grant, let's say senior housing, the Senator wants the application denied?
Well, this is actually the exact reason that the Emoluments Clause in the Constitution, and the exact reason Trump should have put everything in a blind trust or divested. This is in order to prevent the slightest appearance of self-dealing, corruption or impropriety.

But Trump doesn't know of, or care about, the law. Or he wouldn't have skirted the nepotism law in order to plunk his inexperienced wealthy real estate dealing son-in-law into the West Wing.

And we know his cult does not care about any laws he breaks or how corrupt he is, but others do. And this will continue to add to his conflicts of interest. Eventually it will go too far and there will be people calling for a special prosecutor. He could have avoided all of this, but chooses not to.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Let’s not forget about Elizabeth Warren. People may not know this. She enriched herself and her family. You know how she got it? She flipped houses, and some people say she used insider information to flip houses of the poor that she would buy that had been foreclosed on in Oklahoma and other places. You know, she’s a Fauxcahontas. She’s got like a thimbleful of Cherokee blood flowing through one of her toenails, so she’s an Indian, or a part of one, whatever
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:06 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Someone should give her a blanket full of small pox. I kid, I kid!!!
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:07 PM
 
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Let’s not forget about Elizabeth Warren. People may not know this. She enriched herself and her family. You know how she got it? She flipped houses, and some people say she used insider information to flip houses of the poor that she would buy that had been foreclosed on in Oklahoma and other places. You know, she’s a Fauxcahontas. She’s got like a thimbleful of Cherokee blood flowing through one of her toenails, so she’s an Indian, or a part of one, whatever
But the hearing isn't about Elizabeth Warren. When and if she runs for office again or for President, you can drag out her sordid past. It doesn't matter if the devil himself is on the podium asking Ben Carson these questions. Why the deflection from Carson's poor answer? Why the need to whine about Warren? While you may not like her tone or what she's getting at, she's trying to get to the heart of the matter that all of the appointees are being asked: can you act independently of Trump and can you be objective and avoid ethics violoations. Basically, your allegiance must be to the country.

Now, ultimately, as I read Carson's answer, I actually got where he was coming from. If he denied money to a project that was Trump's due to ethics, this could actually hurt an in-need person. I get that. But when it comes to ethics and the government, you have to be above board. That's what she was getting at. Basically, Ben, do you feel like you owe Trump something and will ensure HUD does not enrich him.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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..and she is supposed to be the best the Dems will have to offer in 2020?
Only according to conservatives--haven't heard any Dems proposing it.

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Warren keeps getting dumber and dumber as she plays the all-knowing liberal prof she is. Just another drupe in the banana cart.
She knows a lot more about government and the constitution than Trump ever will.

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She actually said to Carson "can you ensure that millions of HUD dollars won't end up in Trump's pockets?"
As she should. Some people care about Trump having conflicts of interest and the possibility of corruption.

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THAT shows how far removed from reality she actually is. The Dems are putting on a show for their base and sticking to their identity politics; which is why they lost.

Not the smartest tools in the shed, and they will hand Trump a super majority because of their blind ideologies.

It would be hilarious if it were fiction... unfortunately it's not. It might actually be a veiled bit of racism on her part.
The irony.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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Clinton is not the topic here. The authoritarian crony capitalist is the topic. Start a new thread if you want to go off on tangents.
Actually the topic is about political grandstanding by people snagging free publicity prior to confirming these people for cabinet positions.

it's also meant to fire up the base (you) to send money to help fight these appointments.

The only people that don't seem to understand these things are dog and pony shows are the very far left and right. Seriously dude, this is basically as faux and professional wrestling and it's kinda embarrassing that some of you think it's real.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:12 PM
 
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Chief Spreading Bull
That's a really good one. People need to make some memes and gifs with that one.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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Actually the topic is about political grandstanding by people snagging free publicity
So no defense from you for the authoritarian crony capitalist. The question you have to ask yourself is; why are you unable to defend the authoritarian crony capitalist and is it a problem going forward? The "yeah, but...look over there!" answers are just pathetic.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:21 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Let’s not forget about Elizabeth Warren. People may not know this. She enriched herself and her family. You know how she got it? She flipped houses, and some people say she used insider information to flip houses of the poor that she would buy that had been foreclosed on in Oklahoma and other places. You know, she’s a Fauxcahontas. She’s got like a thimbleful of Cherokee blood flowing through one of her toenails, so she’s an Indian, or a part of one, whatever
There isn't even any evidence of that whatsoever. Warren is a huckster and a fraud. Just like Rachel Dolezal.

Why anyone takes her seriously is beyond me. Weak minds, perhaps?
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