Hundreds of Churches Vow to Protect Immigrants Facing Deportation as Trump Presidency Looms (wisdom, terrorist)
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
If I walked out of a "sanctuary" Church, yes. Probable cause.
Any church that offers services to the public is by definition a sanctuary church. So you think people leaving Sunday services should be stopped and asked for their papers?
Helping criminals violate the law absolutely is both political-and CRIMINAL. The people doing so should be treated as criminals (OK, suspects until found guilty) and prosecuted accordingly. Myths and superstitions don't trump the laws of this country.
I don't support "christian" churches helping these criminals any more than mosques helping terrorists.
So the churches are going to break federal law if need be? What kind of "churches" are they?
How exactly are you defining churches? The liberals ones think illegal immigrants deserve rights because that's what they say Jesus would say and the conservatives ones think gay marriages is pure evil because they say that's what Jesus would say, both of which are contrary to the official stance of the federal government. It's not as if conservative churches aren't politically active.
Quote:
Originally Posted by North Beach Person
He would have said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, render unto God that which is God's".
Churches don't follow Jesus. The churches arguable never followed this specific point, but certainly, it was all but abandoned after the rise of totalitarianism in the 20th century. It's one thing to render unto Woodrow Wilson's what is Woodrow Willsons but rending unto Stalin's what is Stalin's is a bit more problematic. This view was abandoned as evangelicals claw at the Republican party and as progressive churches desperately attempt to appeal to the kiddos.
Any church that offers services to the public is by definition a sanctuary church.
No. You know darned well the issue is that of harboring illegal aliens. That's against the law. And it carries the penalty of a 5 year prison term.
We should no more allow those in Churches to get away with pedophilia than we should allow them to get away with violating any other federal law, like harboring illegal aliens.
No. You know darned well the issue is that of harboring illegal aliens. That's against the law. And it carries the penalty of a 5 year prison term.
We should know more allow those in Churches to get away with pedophilia than we should allow them to get away with violating any other federal law, like harboring illegal aliens.
I understand the issue but that doesn't negate the fact that any church which offers services to the public is a sanctuary church by definition.
Not in regards to harboring illegal aliens, which is a violation of federal law and carries the penalty of a 5 year prison term.
Which brings us back to the point I made earlier - you can not pick which churches are harboring illegal aliens and which are not nor can you sit outside a church and check everyone's papers without violating the constitution.
And? When criminals are arrested, unfortunately things are often not pleasant for their children. Still no excuse to allow criminals to go free. Social services can pick up the slack for the kids, just like they would if their parents were arrested for manufacturing meth.
Not only that but wouldn't these parents here illegally have their kids with them in the sanctuary churches? Where else would they be? You're right, even the kids of American law breakers suffer because of their parent's wrong doing. What are we supposed to do, not enforce our laws against any parent's because they have kids?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
