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Old 01-13-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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I keep asking the same question. Where are you going to find the good police when no sane person would do that job? The old saying - beyond the point of no return - applies.

The best way to defang the police is the same way you stop the cockroaches. Keep the place clean and there is nothing to feed them. Crime feeds them. A society gets the police it deserves.
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Some people think gang violence and violence in general in Chicago exists in some vacuum where the only bad guys are the gang members.

I'm in no way condoning gang violence or gang members, but what do people who bemoan all this violence expect, when the police department itself engages in violent and deadly conduct against civilians
(and I'm not saying all police are bad of course).

Police corruption and gang violence have always been and always will be a part of Chicago, has been that way even before the Al Capone days.

Feds Release Scathing Report on Chicago Police Abuse - ABC News

You're trying to make a correlation that doesn't exist. Gang violence has nothing to do with how dirty the cops are in Chicago.

I hope they go in and completely clean house, but the problem starts at the top, so unless Rahm is booted, the same coverups of police wrongdoing will exist.

On another note, Evanston finally released video of a stop they made in 2015. It seems a white woman, seeing a man at a car door, called 9-1-1 and told them a black man was breaking into a car. The way they treated him made it look like he had committed some crime and evaded them for several miles. It's just sick how these idiots are not trained to do their jobs well.

That story and video are here:

Evanston police release arrest video of man suspected of stealing car that was his own | WFLD
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Ignore this report. It came from a racist who runs the DoJ. She sees racism in everything at all times.

She IS racist. And unethical. But if you live in the Chicago area, you know better than to ignore the report.
Laquan McDonald was only one example of dirty lying cops in Chicago. They lie, withhold video, and pay out big bucks to the families to silence them. It's a disgrace.
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:15 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Notice what is missing from this report....
A DOJ lawsuit.
In every other case like this, the DOJ has dropped a lawsuit the same day the report is issued, often alongside a non-negotiable consent decree.
Instead we have a written "agreement to negotiate a settlement" and the DoJ "may file a federal lawsuit".
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:22 AM
 
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Why doenst the DOJ investgate the hurndreds of shootings and murders in Chicago instead of going after the people trying to investigate the shootings and murders?
They should investigate both as sometimes both sides are committing the shootings and murders.
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:24 AM
 
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If people behaved themselves and did not commit crimes they would never even have to encounter the police. Seems pretty simple to me.
Except it isn't always true.

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Old 01-13-2017, 11:26 AM
 
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I keep asking the same question. Where are you going to find the good police when no sane person would do that job? The old saying - beyond the point of no return - applies.
The vast majority are sane and do the job they were hired to do.
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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The vast majority are sane and do the job they were hired to do.

I know someone personally who became CPD. While he was not a monster or anything of the sort he was not the cream of the crop either. He cheated on his wife and more or less told her she would be sorry after the break up if she did not speak in glowing terms about him. However in some neighborhoods , he is still more than they deserve. More importantly is that it will be the best they get.
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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I know someone personally who became CPD. While he was not a monster or anything of the sort he was not the cream of the crop either. He cheated on his wife and more or less told her she would be sorry after the break up if she did not speak in glowing terms about him. However in some neighborhoods , he is still more than they deserve. More importantly is that it will be the best they get.
Maybe if these neighborhoods got better........
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Old 01-13-2017, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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If people behaved themselves and did not commit crimes they would never even have to encounter the police. Seems pretty simple to me.
Wrong. And it's frustrating that folks like you ignore what's going on with some cops.

I linked to this video in a previous post:

Evanston police release arrest video of man suspected of stealing car that was his own | WFLD

I'd like you to tell me exactly what this guy had done wrong.
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