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Guaranteed coverage for pre-existing conditions is probably the biggest aspect of it. When that's gone, as many as 1 out of every 4 Americans will be in jeopardy of being declared permanently uninsurable except through group plans (which are rapidly going the way of the Model T).
There's no doubt that there was a lot wrong with the ACA, and I mean a lot. But it was never intended to be a finished product - it was simply a starting point, the first step. It could (and should) have been improved upon. It was an opportunity to finally fix a hopelessly broken health care system, and resolve an issue that most of the civilized world solved a half century ago, but has been tearing this country apart and paralyzing it for decades. While we still fight like rabid dogs over this problem every single election cycle, the rest of the world solved it and moved on decades ago.
Now that opportunity is lost forever, and we'll be back not only to Square One, but even further back than we were before. This will be one of the single worst things to happen to America in generations.
Edit: Oh, jeez, how did I forget about the elimination of lifetime limits?
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Guaranteed coverage for pre-existing conditions is probably the biggest aspect of it. When that's gone, as many as 1 out of every 4 Americans will be in jeopardy of being declared permanently uninsurable except through group plans (which are rapidly going the way of the Model T).
There's no doubt that there was a lot wrong with the ACA, and I mean a lot. But it was never intended to be a finished product - it was simply a starting point, the first step. Now we'll be back not only to Square One, but even further back than we were before. This will be one of the single worst things to happen to America in generations.
I'm wondering if the Republicans will continue wandering in circles for awhile and then settle on single payer.
Tax credits and HSAs are non-starters. Let's see what else they got up their sleeve.
I liked the medicaid expansion and was very sorry SCOTUS ruled it could be optional. A lot of the current complaints about the ACA's inadequacy are the consequences of states opting out.
I like that insurers were required to offer real insurance policies, not those sham policies that don't actually cover much.
It forced the US political process to take action on what is a disgraceful attitude in America about people's right to good health. We are the richest country on the planet and yet we treat some of our citizens worse than dogs.
Obamacare is flawed, no doubt about it. And it will likely be repealed. But it really opened the eyes of people as to what is possible and what is just. Eliminating discrimination for healthcare based on pre-existing conditions is huge. But so is not allowing insurance companies to drop you because you got sick. And not allowing insurance to limit what they will pay you for an illness. These things are now key parts of the dialog in what the Republicans will do to replace Obamacare. If Obamacare never existed these conversations about fair treatment of people would never occur. That is real winner here.
I personally think we can do far better than Obamacare but I think that going back to what things were before Obamacare would be worse for America.
Guaranteed coverage for pre-existing conditions is probably the biggest aspect of it. When that's gone, as many as 1 out of every 4 Americans will be in jeopardy of being declared permanently uninsurable except through group plans (which are rapidly going the way of the Model T).
There's no doubt that there was a lot wrong with the ACA, and I mean a lot. But it was never intended to be a finished product - it was simply a starting point, the first step. It could (and should) have been improved upon. It was an opportunity to finally fix a hopelessly broken health care system, and resolve an issue that most of the civilized world solved a half century ago, but has been tearing this country apart and paralyzing it for decades. While we still fight like rabid dogs over this problem every single election cycle, the rest of the world solved it and moved on decades ago.
Now that opportunity is lost forever, and we'll be back not only to Square One, but even further back than we were before. This will be one of the single worst things to happen to America in generations.
Additionally letting people under 26 stay on their insurance policy is great.
I'm wondering if the Republicans will continue wandering in circles for awhile and then settle on single payer.
Tax credits and HSAs are non-starters. Let's see what else they got up their sleeve.
If they're true Republicans, they will. This is not a liberal-conservative issue any longer; this is down to simply a "what makes the most sense" issue. And by almost every objective measure, a national single payer universal health care system just makes the most sense for the economy and the national well-being. We have the framework in place - it's called Medicare. Taiwan has one of the top 5 health care systems in the world (with the lowest administrative costs in the world) and all they did was copy Medicare. They made no bones about it; they just asked if they could come over here, study Medicare, and go back home and copy it.
They solved the problem, moved on, and turned their attention to other things. We have the answer right here under our noses, and we're too stupid to recognize it.
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Originally Posted by neko_mimi
My favorite part about the ACA is watching liberals cry when we take it away.
So you care more about hurting people you disagree with than you do about making smart, responsible decisions and what's best for the country as a whole. You're literally willing to kill people if it means getting back at people you don't like.
Thank you for that glimpse into the pure, wretched evil that Trump's supporters represent.
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