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Old 05-25-2017, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Don't forget the depopulation effects of socialism. Socialism fails when it runs out of other people's money - and - other people's children to tax. When folks believed that government would tax other people's children for their retirement, they failed to generate offspring, as did their forebears who relied on offspring for security in old age. This is exacerbated by women entering the workforce, due to the excessive taxation burden. Working women delay having children, and have fewer children.

Socialism is genocidal and suicidal. Socialist countries all show depopulation and reduced birthrates, regardless of their relative prosperity. Their non-socialist over breeding neighbors keep exporting their excess population, and will eventually overwhelm them.

It won’t end well.

 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:14 PM
 
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Yeah, sure... all the white folk are gonna go, hey, love that trump, gotta have me some babies for him! Kinda like the Hitler Youth thing, right?
Maybe Trump can implement an American version of the Lebensborn. Not sure what Americans are going to play the role of the SS though. Not that many Trunpers that I've met fit that Nordic God image they shot for.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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Minority babies outnumbered white babies being born last year. With Trump's victory, can we expect to see a sudden rise in the white birth rate over the next several years? Trump has brought a new level of optimism and hopefulness which his supporters say the country has been missing ever since Reagan. Will Trump's economic successes over the next few years lead to a boom in the white birth rate which declined during the economic hardships of Obama's Great Recession?
Abortions will rise. As whites and all Americans will not have health care and services to raise kids in. Ironic ain't it ?
 
Old 05-26-2017, 03:55 AM
 
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Depends... are all these people gonna lose their birth control coverage?

Because, minority families have long outpaced white families in terms of total births per family.

Which is kinda cool because I suspect a group of them will overtake white births entirely and we shall be a white minority. And, that is fine by me.

Mostly because I am female, used to being treated like a minority because I'm not male, and because I know that white males who are talented and play well with others won't be held back.

Just backward white nationalists. Yay, America!
1 thing to remember is when an anglo white person has a kid with a "person of color" that kid's usually tagged as a person of color. That's changing since more and more light skinned mixed people are now claiming just "white". Too; there ain't a "Hispanic" race. Period. Not of those people are Spanish speaking Indians. Word has it the Black pop's dropping in the US if US citizens out of 100; many light skin people DON'T ID as "Black" anymore since Jim Crow's dead.
 
Old 05-26-2017, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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Whites will have more kids when the conditions for doing so improves. Being a parent is risky business. So when people get priced out of health coverage, the family is doomed.
 
Old 05-26-2017, 05:16 AM
 
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Check the average age of non-Hispanic whites vs that of latinos. There's not enough n/h whites in the prime child bearing years to make a significant dent in the future demographics. Good or bad, that's the truth.
 
Old 05-26-2017, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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no health insurance or unaffordable-- -- HA! NOOOO
 
Old 05-26-2017, 05:22 AM
 
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Perhaps, but it has also produced some LOL/amusing/etc. responses (including your own) that can serve as a tonic for just about anyone.
It's a minor amusement, but anything helps these days.
 
Old 05-26-2017, 05:34 AM
 
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I was having a semi-joking conversation with some colleagues. It is basically logistically impossible to have more than 2 kids any more.

1. All kids need to be in car seats till they are 5. So if you have 3 kids under 5 what car choices do you have?
2. If you have a 3+ kid stroller - how can you leave home? Those strollers are so huge, they don't fit on the sidewalk. Here in the older parts of the bay area, many stores and restaurants are crammed to the hilt. There is barely room for a person to walk by. Where would a stroller go?
3. Most people I know are in my demographic: fairly well paid professionals who eat out a lot. This doesn't seem to stop when people become parents. And well many restaurants around here (in the older cities) barely have tables for parties of 4. How would they accommodate a family of 5+?
4. This is a San Francisco (and some urban areas) problem. SF has a lottery system for schools. And there is no guarantee all of your kids would go to the same school, or even a school in your neighborhood. So let's say you have 2 elementary schoolers and a middle schooler. What if they were stationed all over the city for school. How on earth would you get them there on time! Yikes!
5. After-school activities. How on earth could you deal with 3 kids worth? My mom was a mostly stay at home one, and it was hard enough to deal with my sister and i. And we weren't over scheduled like today's kids. We just did the same stuff. :P And the stuff that wasn't the same was in walking distance.
6. Family sized housing: so the bay area really doesn't build a lot of 3 bedroom places. And now don't all kids get their own rooms? 4 bedroom housing is a rare thing here - at any price point! Where would you live?

It sounds really complicated to me - even if you had unlimited money.
I don't know if the law has changed yet again, but sometime in the early to mid 2000s the law changed to include a weight requirement as well...and = and, not or. One of the little ones in my family (not household) turned 5 just after that period (....always think of her as the little one ...think Subaru 'baby driver' commercial). She had to still ride in a seat after age 5 because she hadn't yet reached the minimum weight required by law at that time (she was still within normal range per her pediatrician), and this was in the Bay Area. I still have her car seat for my car (yes, I am a pack rat re some items ).
 
Old 05-26-2017, 06:00 AM
 
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Same is true where I live. My son is in Kindergarten and I'm 46 (and I have a daughter who is 2). My Dad was 27 when I was born (in Pennsylvania in 1970) and I was 40 when my son was born. I thought I was going to be "the old dad" when I went to the first day of dropping my son off at Kindergarten. However, while I'm on the older half of dads, I was certainly not alone; some of the fathers that I've gotten to know are 50. It's incredibly difficult to own a house in Pacific Beach if you are in your late 20s, so a lot of guys start having families late. When my wife was pregnant with our second child, she was 36. During one of our pre-natal doctor visits, she saw her file when her doctor was out of the room and it said "elderly" on it. It's nearly impossible to have five children if you start as late as we did.
Age difference between the spouses can also obviously make a difference. A friend of mine who is almost old enough to be my dad (I'm male) was married for almost 15 years (then divorced) and had been a step father...but that wasn't a very good experience/discouraged by his ex. He had always wanted to be a dad. A couple of months before he turned 52, he met a woman (this was in the 1990s). When they met, she thought he was much younger than he was, and he thought she was much older than she was. She had been planning to move out of the area (not re cost.....just re an opportunity), but by their second date they knew. He owned a house in a Bay Area suburb that is similar economically to Pacific Beach. She moved in with him almost immediately, they married early the next year, and had their first child at the end of that year, when he was 53 and she was 27. They have 3 kids. The first two are in college, and the last one is in high school.

Ten years later (also in California), one of my older relatives (who is ten years younger than my aforementioned friend) married and had his first child...also at 53. There was more concern with his wife's pregnancy than with my friend's wife (she is 10 years younger than her husband, and had not previously had a child), but their daughter was born healthy, and they added another healthy baby a few years later
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