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Old 01-19-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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Islam is a bad legal argument. One does not restrict Islam as a religion. You can have any religion you like except when it allows you to rape uncovered women or murder people for leaving the faith.
Actually, you would still be free to hold a religion that "allows you to rape uncovered women or murder people for leaving the faith." the problem arises when you act on those beliefs which immediately becomes very illegal.

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The free exercise of Religion is dependent on civil rights, not the other way around. Sharia Law cannot be legally imposed on any individual within our state.
Well, yea obviously, that is just the other side of the same coin. Religious freedom only applies to non criminal actions. You can't sacrifice babies to Moloch either, even if it is your religion. Sharia law would be one blatant violation, religious tests for immigration another.
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Old 01-19-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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Actually, you would still be free to hold a religion that "allows you to rape uncovered women or murder people for leaving the faith." the problem arises when you act on those beliefs which immediately becomes very illegal.
So more or less you are arguing that preventing say Christians from going to Church on Sunday allows them to freely wish they could? Kinda of why it says the free exercise thereof anticipating your Tomfool argument.


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Well, yea obviously, that is just the other side of the same coin. Religious freedom only applies to non criminal actions. You can't sacrifice babies to Moloch either, even if it is your religion. Sharia law would be one blatant violation, religious tests for immigration another.
Well there ya are. Islam such that it imposes behaviors on others is not compatible with our society. The only bases for our law is when two people's freedom are in conflict. That is no how Islamic law works. You cannot even Amend the Quran. We can Amend the Constitution.
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Old 01-19-2017, 03:57 PM
 
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California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Oregon, Washington

it's called the "Reconquista" or something to that effect and is very real. But we don't recognize it because they aren't using their Army to do it and it's happening very slowly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIB_XGRm6UQ
Is this one of those white genocide things you guys keep talking about. Like Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white nonsense.
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Old 01-19-2017, 03:57 PM
 
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Last time I checked, the US/Mexico border was clearly defined, unless there's some Kashmir-like area in the Southwest that I'm not aware of.
Pak wanted to have full of Kashmir, but stopped/halted after taking 1/3rd of the territory. And the matter was settled there. But like the Arab states refusing to recoqnize Israel even to date despite losing the 6 day war, Pakistan still claims Kashmir is for Kashmiris ( despite losing 3 more wars).
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Old 01-19-2017, 04:03 PM
 
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So more or less you are arguing that preventing say Christians from going to Church on Sunday allows them to freely wish they could? Kinda of why it says the free exercise thereof anticipating your Tomfool argument.
WTF kind of bizarre pretzel logic is this?

The law you suggested "preventing say Christians from going to Church on Sunday" would not be constitutional either.

When you have to *try* to straw man another person into saying literally the exact opposite of what they have been saying the whole time, you might want to reexamine your argument.

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Well there ya are. Islam such that it imposes behaviors on others is not compatible with our society. The only bases for our law is when two people's freedom are in conflict. That is no how Islamic law works. You cannot even Amend the Quran. We can Amend the Constitution.
You appear to have difficulty distinguishing between thoughts and actions:

A person believes that we should have sharia law because of their religion - protected

A person believes that we should have sharia law because of their religion and decides to apply that belief through legislation(unconstitutional laws) or violence(criminal) - not protected
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