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Old 01-20-2017, 10:01 PM
 
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If he creates a national health care system that gives good health care to everyone regardless of their income, I will admit I was wrong about Trump.

The biggest disgrace in America is the fact that we allow basic health care to be denied to people because they dont have enough money.
You're somewhat wrong though, because BY LAW a hospital can NOT "turn you down" if you're dying or in need of urgent/serious care As for the gigantic bill that arrives later? That can simply be BK'ed away if I recall correctly, or it can be negotiated down and settled for pennies on the dollar As far as I know, medical bills are generally not taken very seriously and are regularly settled for pennies on the dollar, even many judges will sympathize with/"feel sorry for" debtors if they just explain their situation.

And besides, asking for healthy/young/responsible/physically in-shape people like myself to pay (by FORCE, thru government taxation/thievery) for the medical bills of the old, druggies, smokers, deliberately fat people, lazy people who don't exercise, people with bad habits, alcoholics and heavy drinkers, people who eat crappy diets and Twinkies and drink Big Gulp sodas all day, people who engage in "risky" behaviors, etc is just not fair and morally wrong
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Old 01-20-2017, 10:07 PM
 
Location: At mah house
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Liberals can barely admit he won. So my guess is the answer will be "hell no".
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Old 01-20-2017, 10:10 PM
 
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If Obama did a good job, would republicans admit it?

No on both sides. Both sides will condone the BS on their side and throw rocks at the other. Plain and simple.
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Old 01-20-2017, 10:14 PM
 
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3. Real men/masculinity (especially)
What does that even mean?
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Old 01-20-2017, 10:24 PM
 
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If Obama did a good job, would republicans admit it?

No on both sides. Both sides will condone the BS on their side and throw rocks at the other. Plain and simple.
Obama did not do a good job OR "live up to the hype", that much is obvious now. It's NO WONDER Trump won so bigly when you look at Obummer's lousy record on the economy

Trump, being a businessman, is EXACTLY what America needs right now. Obama was a bad fit for the job, you can't take a small-time "community organizer" and put him at the helm of the USA with no experience or knowledge of economics/capitalism Obama tried to "mix" socialism with capitalism..... but that just doesn't work

Trump on the other hand?? He actually understands capitalism and is well-versed in it, i think we're in good hands
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Old 01-20-2017, 10:40 PM
 
Location: At mah house
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What does that even mean?
This wasn't directed at me, but it is something I agree with. I think that our society has become a bit feminized. By "feminized", I don't mean in the doctrinaire sense where we promote equality between the sexes, but feminized in the sense that we hold in high regards traits, attitudes, outlooks, and worldviews that are commonly associated with women. As a result, I think men have become marginalized in our society.

I think that's why I find myself liking Trump, even though I don't necessarily support him. While I think many of the concerns people have about him are fair, I also think he scares people because he's a man who doesn't seem to thrive off the validation of women. I think that's because he's always been wealthy to some extent, but Trump doesn't worry about always being the perfect gentleman or the nice guy, and that's not something we've seen in a very long time. I'm not endorsing that, by the way, but I think it's what makes him so controversial.
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Old 01-20-2017, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Disclosure. I am an independent who did not vote for Trump but I hold out hope that he does a good job for the country since hoping he fails is akin to hoping America fails.

My question is, will liberals admit it if he actually does a good job?
Lets say the economy improves, we keep more jobs in America, American optimism and pride increases like it did under Reagan, we avoid getting into more wars, in short, he does a good job as president.

Do you think liberals would admit it or give him credit?
Why not, well those that are honest. That said trump has to earn praise and respect, as it stands we have to wait and see I will remind you that while something might look good at first might very well turn out to be horrible for the Nation. We shall see but just do not expect Liberals to be jumping on the bandwagon or singing any praises until he prove himself.
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:03 PM
 
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The top 3 things Liberals HATE:

1. America
2. Capitalism/wealth (especially!)
3. Real men/masculinity (especially!)

Yeah..... I think even if he "does a good job" the Liberals will continue to HATE Trump, as he embodies all three of the ^above^

If Trump follows thru on his alleged tax cuts, I bet we'll see low income/welfare/Bernie liberals whinging about "hey! my tax refund got smaller due to these lower taxes" or "the welfare office slashed my benefits cause i have more income!", some of these Liberals are sooooooo dumb
That has to be the dumbest thing I have seen posted here today and that is saying a lot. Pssst, you are not going to be getting a tax cut, Enjoy
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:15 PM
 
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That has to be the dumbest thing I have seen posted here today and that is saying a lot. Pssst, you are not going to be getting a tax cut, Enjoy
Got nothing to say leftist? Typical leftist lack of response and resorting to petty insults

Note i said "alleged" tax cuts, they may or may not happen and/or be somehow different
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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What does that even mean?
I'd like to know too. If it means what I think it does, what a jerk...
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