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ID is required for just about everything these days, from receiving healthcare to banking to check cashing to obtaining any social services to driving to working. It's mind boggling that so many people live through adulthood without any ID.
I'm aware of the logistics issue that ID requirements create for poor people in rural areas (especially in the Rio Grande Valley here in TX) and I believe the main issue isn't just getting to the DMV for an ID - it's obtaining the necessary documentation beforehand. Certified birth certificates and SS cards are a requirement in order to get an ID, and obtaining those documents is more trouble than many people wish to go through. That's not an issue of racism, so I reject the "R" label on this issue. If free documentation service is offered to low income adults then there's really just no excuse - especially given that you can't collect social services without it.
ID is required for just about everything these days, from receiving healthcare to banking to check cashing to obtaining any social services to driving to working. It's mind boggling that so many people live through adulthood without any ID.
I'm aware of the logistics issue that ID requirements create for poor people in rural areas (especially in the Rio Grande Valley here in TX) and I believe the main issue isn't just getting to the DMV for an ID - it's obtaining the necessary documentation beforehand. Certified birth certificates and SS cards are a requirement in order to get an ID, and obtaining those documents is more trouble than many people wish to go through. That's not an issue of racism, so I reject the "R" label on this issue. If free documentation service is offered to low income adults then there's really just no excuse - especially given that you can't collect social services without it.
Exactly. There possibly could be a few 80+ year olds without official birth certificates, and whatever agencies/social worker is involved can figure out how to address that, but there is no excuse for anyone else.
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Exactly. There possibly could be a few 80+ year olds without official birth certificates, and whatever agencies/social worker is involved can figure out how to address that, but there is no excuse for anyone else.
There will be a few, but it's essentially tough luck for them.
Yeah, people missed this part. I assume you and I disagree on whether that is a good thing or not. As long as there are mechanisms for addressing the cost to low-income non-drivers, I am all for voter ID laws.
Yes if they can come up with a system that won't exclude thousands of voters as is the case with the current proposal .
Because poor folks are less likely to have driver's licenses. Like gerrymandering, it's a way to get the voters you want while keeping out the ones you don't want.
It seems to me, many people on here have not voted and aren't aware of how difficult it is to commit voter fraud on any significant level.
ID is required for just about everything these days, from receiving healthcare to banking to check cashing to obtaining any social services to driving to working. It's mind boggling that so many people live through adulthood without any ID.
Without an in date, valid ID is more accurate, but every state is different. I couldn't vote with my expired ID but I could certainly get medical services and financial services with an expired ID over the years.
I'm aware of the logistics issue that ID requirements create for poor people in rural areas (especially in the Rio Grande Valley here in TX) and I believe the main issue isn't just getting to the DMV for an ID - it's obtaining the necessary documentation beforehand. Certified birth certificates and SS cards are a requirement in order to get an ID, and obtaining those documents is more trouble than many people wish to go through. That's not an issue of racism, so I reject the "R" label on this issue. If free documentation service is offered to low income adults then there's really just no excuse - especially given that you can't collect social services without it.[/quote]
It's not racist, just meant to make it harder for the opposition to vote. I agree with the bolded, but that's not the case as you've illustrated.
Because poor folks are less likely to have driver's licenses. Like gerrymandering, it's a way to get the voters you want while keeping out the ones you don't want.
It seems to me, many people on here have not voted and aren't aware of how difficult it is to commit voter fraud on any significant level.
If you read up on the history you will see that it exclude legitimate voters and lacked any proof of actual fraud. It sure seems to be intentional so Sessions should have pursued the issue but this is why they elected Trump.
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