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Old 01-21-2017, 09:05 PM
 
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The women who traveled across the country today to march care.
No, they are mad that Trump won, nothing more. He has not done a damn thing yet to protest about, he has been in office for one day.

How about they see what he really does? Oh yes, they do not care, Hillary lost, she is a woman, and they are mad about it.

They thought for sure she would have won, Obama had high approval ratings, economy doing much better than eight years ago, and all the polls showing she was ahead, so it was a brutal let down when the results came.

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Viagra is covered by insurance.
"vasectomy is expensive, it is a one-time cost and is often covered by medical insurance"
The GOP is, in general, not friendly to more family and medical leave.

There are many coordinated actions BY GOVERNMENT against planned parenthood, which is - by far - the leading provider of health and reproductive care and advice to poor and middle class (and other) women.

These actions involve the cutting off of funds for the BASIC parts of that health care - pap smears, breast cancer exams, etc. etc.

Maybe you can fool yourself but you aren't fooling others.
Viagra is not a contraceptive. Condoms are contraceptives; are they covered by insurance?

Is a hysterectomy covered by insurance?

What actions against Planned Parenthood? Aside from abortion which is a forever, ongoing debate, what is the federal gov doing to prevent them from providing services?

Show me where the federal gov is on its way to enacting laws that would prevent insurance companies from covering pap smears, breast exams, etc. My insurance has covered this stuff for years, since the 1990's at least.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:06 PM
 
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Because he is signing executive orders. When he said he will repeal Obama care that includes removing the following

low cost contraceptives covered by healt insurance

maternity coverage

planned parenthood preventive services.

Republicans indeed have a war against women
Buy your own contraceptives or don't have sex.

Maternity coverage? By whom? Do you mean pre-natal care?

Again, don't get pregnant if you can't afford the basics, starting while knocked-up.

If the ACA (Obamacare) is so great, why does PP exist?
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:06 PM
 
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Are men's contraceptives covered by insurance?

Where do you or anyone get that maternity is being removed from insurance?

Planned Parenthood can provide all the preventive services they want, where do you get that they will not be able to?
Male contraceptives: Condoms are cheap and OTC (birth control pills are prescription and while not costly, they do cost considerably more than condoms, and must be taken every day so are perpetual); males can walk away from a pregnancy (and do).

Maternity: I think they're speaking of the fact that maternity coverage is included in all policies, so they don't have to pay extra to get it.

PP preventive services: PP preventive services include helping the poor get contraceptives.(Medicaid does not cover contraceptives.) Note that the rate of abortions is the lowest in decades, due in part to women being able to get contraceptives. Pro-lifers should be for assisting poor women getting contraceptives, I would think.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:07 PM
 
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To all the women who marched today.

You deserve Donald Trump. Why? I'm willing to bet a lot of you didn't bother to vote because you weren't "enthusiastic" enough.

I say repeal Obamacare ASAP. Defund planned parenthood. If women weren't "enthusiastic" enough to go out and vote, what makes them think they deserve to keep all the benefits?
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:07 PM
 
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All of the above. Just not getting it. Why the anger? If they want to wear the knit caps and bond that's okay by me. Perhaps they need a spokesperson to explain the nuances of WTF they are seeking. Seems like more of the beads and sandals incorporated business tactics.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:07 PM
 
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Hillary Clinton makes a career of lying on TV, she also lives on handouts from the rich & wealthy. She should be in jail had Ivanka Trump & Chelsea Clinton not been friends she would be sent in orange jumpsuits by now.
Well, Trumps brother in law WAS in Jail.......so I guess you approve of that kind of stuff. Big difference between wanting someone to be in jail due to fake news...and people who were sentenced to jail.

But, ah, Trump says OK...so it must be right.

BTW, there is no law about making money from wealthy people. Your King Trump does that. But he goes even further, ripping off hard working poor folks with Trump U and not paying contractors, etc.

There is a special place in hell for folks like that. Predators...in more ways than one.

This has to be a joke - you thinking that Wall Street Billionaires and Exxon Mobile CEO's wake up every morning working toward helping the "forgotten" man. Tell me it's not what you think....please?
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:10 PM
 
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The women who traveled across the country today to march care.
About what?

Things they didn't care about 6 months ago, 3 years ago, 10 years ago?

The organizers can't even give an explanation that makes sense as to why they were marching today.

What it was, was a thinly-veiled, anti-Trump rally.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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Are men's contraceptives covered by insurance?
Ridiculous question. When has a man ever gotten pregnant?

Please don't tell me a condom is a male contraceptive device. It's a prophylactic. However, most insurance plans do cover vasectomies.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:13 PM
 
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I respect that so many women and men were able to get together across the nation and world to protest President Trump today but here is a thought.

Trump is no politician as we have seen and heard throughout the campaign. He has said some wild off the hook whacky things over the past months and many have considered his tirades to be nothing but braggy and self indulgent and those are his supporters. The people who oppose him consider most of what spews from Trumps mouth as lies. Now he is certainly not a polished politician but he talks like one in that he has promised to do so many things that we all know simply cannot and will not happen.

Somewhere along the campaign road Trump must have said something that got many people excited that he was going to take away a womans rights. That is pretty serious stuff if true but since when has a politician, even an outsider playing a politician ever told the truth on the campaign trail?
Obama for example pledged to close Gitmo yet it is still open.

I wonder what all these women are hoping to achieve and why they have chosen to suddenly take Trump at his word when most will say if his mouth is open there are lies falling out ?
Please don't play stupid. Don't tell me he's "an outsider" and that he's "not a politician". He's been buying politicians for years. That makes him a politician.

Women don't want to be sexually harassed or assaulted in the work place ("grab them by the *****"). His son, Donnie the lesser, said that harassment is part of the work force.

Women don't want to be treated like garbage

Women want access to healthcare and family planning

And above all, women HATE people who lie. That's why so many of us hated Hillary, but Trump is no better.

Trump is a narcissistic, conceited, obnoxious LIAR, and HALF THE COUNTRY DOESN'T LIKE HIM.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:14 PM
 
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Well, Trumps brother in law WAS in Jail.......so I guess you approve of that kind of stuff. Big difference between wanting someone to be in jail due to fake news...and people who were sentenced to jail.

But, ah, Trump says OK...so it must be right.

BTW, there is no law about making money from wealthy people. Your King Trump does that. But he goes even further, ripping off hard working poor folks with Trump U and not paying contractors, etc.

There is a special place in hell for folks like that. Predators...in more ways than one.

This has to be a joke - you thinking that Wall Street Billionaires and Exxon Mobile CEO's wake up every morning working toward helping the "forgotten" man. Tell me it's not what you think....please?
Those contractors should turn over their contracts.

I would bet that there was a clause in there that stated they wouldn't get paid in full if they didn't keep up their end of the timeline.

That's how I do it...I'm not going to let contractors hold me up b/c they didn't "feel like it" for a few days, or had to start another job. Nope.

Lets see those contracts...
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