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Old 01-24-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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Congress and the SC have no say at all. Those agencies are not part of government, they work for the POTUS, remember?
You might want to read up on whether or not the Executive Branch of Government... is "part of the government". Hint: it is. Those agencies are indeed part of government. The lack of understanding of the government is astounding, and it is clear why trump won the election.

 
Old 01-24-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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Go back to Russia. You don't have the faintest clue what you are saying. If the Executive Branch violates the Constitution which is what they are doing now, it is very much a concern for Supreme Court and the Congress.
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.... The lack of understanding of the government is astounding, and it is clear why trump won the election.
Can you cite the clause of the US Constitution they are violating?

It's not the first amendment if that is what you were thinking.
 
Old 01-24-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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lol..Well, Trump IS their boss so he's allowed to control the message.
I'm pretty sure he said he took the control from DC and gave it to the people. Didn't you hear his speech?

Of course it was never his to give, because these agencies ALWAYS belonged to THE PEOPLE, not some political hack who just moved to DC.
 
Old 01-24-2017, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If this does indeed mark the beginning of the end for the EPA, I'm guessing the next Flint-style water crisis is not going to be a priority for the Trump administration.
EPA and USDA are only the first ones on the black-out list. More to come.
 
Old 01-24-2017, 02:11 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure he said he took the control from DC and gave it to the people. Didn't you hear his speech?

Of course it was never his to give, because these agencies ALWAYS belonged to THE PEOPLE, not some political hack who just moved to DC.
Fallacious argument. You argue that it's OK for agencies to ignore their management chain.
 
Old 01-24-2017, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Huntsville
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I can't remember this ever happening in US. This is straight from USSR playbook.

The Congress and Supreme Court needs to step in.


Hmm.....


"New Study Exposes Media's Blackout on Key Obama Failures, Namely ISIS."


"The White House was offering Iran a deal to reduce international sanctions against the rogue, terrorist-supporting nation developing nuclear weapons if it simply agreed to suspend uranium enrichment for two weeks before the U.S. election – allowing Obama to announce a "diplomatic coup.""


"Media Blackout as White House Issues Executive Order Giving Broad Powers to ‘Global Health Security Agenda’ for Infectious Disease Threats"


"Media Blackout On Obama’s Last-Minute Civil Rights Appointments"










To add:


Where was the media when Obama signed an executive order for a Federal land grab that designated 1.8 million acres of land in California as National Monuments?
 
Old 01-24-2017, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Huntsville
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I'm pretty sure he said he took the control from DC and gave it to the people. Didn't you hear his speech?

Of course it was never his to give, because these agencies ALWAYS belonged to THE PEOPLE, not some political hack who just moved to DC.


It's bigger than that. He took control from DC (to include these agencies) and returned it to the people. They report to the President, who reports to us.


So since he works for us, and they take orders from the President do you really think a group of citizens could walk up to the EPA and administer a change at our request? No. They're not going to do anything without their hand being forced, which is what he is doing.
 
Old 01-24-2017, 02:15 PM
 
Location: United States
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Fake news


Here is what is actually going on.

From the article the OP posted.


Staffers in EPA's public affairs office are instructed to forward all inquiries from reporters to the Office of Administration and Resources Management.

There is no media blackout, questions from the media are being forwarded to Office of Administration and Resources Management.

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Old 01-24-2017, 02:22 PM
 
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If this does indeed mark the beginning of the end for the EPA, I'm guessing the next Flint-style water crisis is not going to be a priority for the Trump administration.
You mean this EPA?
Flint Water Crisis: Why the EPA is Partly to Blame | Time.com

Pollution flowing faster than facts in EPA spill - CNN.com
 
Old 01-24-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Trump admin orders EPA contract freeze and media blackout | Political News | US News

"Some staff at the Agriculture Department also received orders not to release any documents to the public.

"This includes, but is not limited to, news releases, photos, fact sheets, news feeds and social media content," read an email to staff at the agency's Agricultural Research Service, which was obtained by the AP.

ARS spokesman Christopher Bentley said the ban would not include scientific publications released through peer-reviewed professional journals."

You can't 'summarily' ban any government document or data if it's FOIA-able. Any executive order to do so would be in violation of the law.
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