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Old 01-26-2017, 07:42 AM
 
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I think it's hilarious that Republicans believe that voter fraud is rampant in historically solid blue states. Wouldn't voter fraud make more sense in swing states? What's the point of running up the score in New York or California?
Senate elections, House elections, State legislator elections and local elections.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:44 AM
 
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The first sentence in your post is patently false.
I defy you to show me one example of a state that does not provide free ID if you need it to vote.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:47 AM
 
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I think you also know that many state ID cards, including your own, do not comply with the real ID act.
PA lead the charge in implementing higher security ID's, they are some of the best in the country. The issue surrounding the ID is not the ID itself but other parts of that act such as sharing information.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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In Arizona because to get a Driver's License here, you need to show proof of citizenship first. (Birth Certificate/Passport).

So me just showing my ID should be good enough, but nope we need those "Voter ID" laws.

However, my right to vote, has nothing to do with reciting the zip code in where I live or pointing to where I live.
Isnt that an issue with your local county election commission?
My state had voter ID and all I have to do is show my ID and I also show my voter registration card and sign in by my name and information in their big ol' book. Its usually a 10-15 minute wait on average. There has never been an issue with polling availability in my very rural county. My polling location is the senior citizens center in Mayland, unincorporated. When I first started voting there the seniors had free chili, coffee and pie available to the voters. Unfortunately they stopped doing that.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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I defy you to show me one example of a state that does not provide free ID if you need it to vote.
I can make it easy for you, simply search for lawsuits about them being a poll tax..... You won't find any because that is exactly what they would have been sued for and rightly so.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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I might live in a border state, but my driver's license already proves that I'm a US Citizen. You do not need to make me do any other crap to vote.

What documentation did you have to provide to get your first drivers license? Some states are issuing licenses to illegals so that they can get to work ( at jobs they should not have).
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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What documentation did you have to provide to get your first drivers license? Some states are issuing licenses to illegals so that they can get to work ( at jobs they should not have).
Birth Certificate or US Passport
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Isnt that an issue with your local county election commission?
My state had voter ID and all I have to do is show my ID and I also show my voter registration card and sign in by my name and information in their big ol' book. Its usually a 10-15 minute wait on average. There has never been an issue with polling availability in my very rural county. My polling location is the senior citizens center in Mayland, unincorporated. When I first started voting there the seniors had free chili, coffee and pie available to the voters. Unfortunately they stopped doing that.
That's an issue with the state generally, which in Arizona, Democrats are shunned because "we don't belong in a conservative state". Gerrymandering and political contributions don't help one bit.

Case in point: Prop 206 was passed by the voters this past election by about 59-60%. Raises the minimum wage to $12/hr over time (2021) and provides 3 days of sick paid time off. You know what's the first thing the state does? Sue in courts to block it.
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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That's an issue with the state generally, which in Arizona, Democrats are shunned because "we don't belong in a conservative state". Gerrymandering and political contributions don't help one bit.

Case in point: Prop 206 was passed by the voters this past election by about 59-60%. Raises the minimum wage to $12/hr over time (2021) and provides 3 days of sick paid time off. You know what's the first thing the state does? Sue in courts to block it.
Good. Raising minimum wage is stupid. Actually the whole minimum wage thing is stupid and purely political.
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Good. Raising minimum wage is stupid. Actually the whole minimum wage thing is stupid and purely political.
Says the other 60%, I'm sorry but the purpose of the government is to work for the people. Which democracy in the world suggests otherwise? That's right, only in good 'ole USA.
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