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Old 01-26-2017, 05:28 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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First of all this question is about LOCAL politics.
This is a conversation about republican vs. democrat, and whether your a republican in the White House or a republican who is mayor you are a member of the same political party, with the same dreams, beliefs, and desires.

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Second - Trumps tax proposals are just that - proposals.
Donald Trump is working with republicans. Look at the tax cut republicans worked out with GW Bush. The Bush tax cuts gave the lowest 20% of income earners 1% of the tax cuts and gave the richest 1% of Americans 51% of the tax cuts.
Bush Tax Cuts After 2002: June 2002 CTJ Analysis

And Donald Trump's (own political campaign) proposed a tax cut that gave the lowest 20% of income earners 1% of the tax cuts and gave the richest 1% of Americans 37% of the tax cuts.

Donald Trump's Tax Plan Would Cost $12 Trillion | CTJReports


What evidence do you have that Trump's actual tax cuts will not give the richest 1% of Americans 37x larger tax cuts than inner city black American workers?
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Ah, whites obsessing over blacks again.

No wonder your women want us.
Whoa! That was outta left field.

This board never fails to entertain!
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:40 PM
 
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I'm a random black guy.

Then ask your friend.

BTW...you live next door to a Fortune 500 guy, huh? What is he...a deliveryman at FedEx?


I am talking in modern context.

And still defending old Strom, huh? Yeah...he had sex with a girl, produced a child and spent the first 60 years of his making the lives of black folks a living hell. Including his own daughter.

Yeah. States rights.
Someone asked you and you want them to ask another black guy. Surely you're not voting for another party specifically because of a 101 year old former democrat who turned republican.
Tim Scott is a black Republican senator from the same state. Needless to say, your politics seem outta date.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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This is a conversation about republican vs. democrat, and whether your a republican in the White House or a republican who is mayor you are a member of the same political party, with the same dreams, beliefs, and desires.



Donald Trump is working with republicans. Look at the tax cut republicans worked out with GW Bush. The Bush tax cuts gave the lowest 20% of income earners 1% of the tax cuts and gave the richest 1% of Americans 51% of the tax cuts.
Bush Tax Cuts After 2002: June 2002 CTJ Analysis

And Donald Trump's (own political campaign) proposed a tax cut that gave the lowest 20% of income earners 1% of the tax cuts and gave the richest 1% of Americans 37% of the tax cuts.

Donald Trump's Tax Plan Would Cost $12 Trillion | CTJReports


What evidence do you have that Trump's actual tax cuts will not give the richest 1% of Americans 37x larger tax cuts than inner city black American workers?
How much income tax do inner city blacks pay?
When Dems were in charge did anything change for the better?
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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No self respecting African American should answer the question.
Then why are you on a board that discusses politics?
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I always laugh when white people like OP try to complain about why black people vote Democrat and then talk down to them like they know exactly what their lives are like, what their problems are and how to solve said problems. And then they wonder why the vast majority of that demographic doesn't vote Republican.

#1, I'm not complaining about the fact you vote Dem, I'm asking why you do...


#2. I don't pretend to know exactly what your life is like or what your problems are, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING!!!!


How have the Democrats helped you?
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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How much income tax do inner city blacks pay?
In the heart of the inner city (ghetto's/projects) they pay practically -0- income taxes. Many of them do not have jobs and the rest of the majority remaining are low income workers who get earned income tax credits.

But why should inner city black Americans vote republican so they can reduce the taxes of the richest 0.1% of Americans by 14.2%?

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When Dems were in charge did anything change for the better?
Yes, Obama's stimulus gave $100's of billions of dollars to inner cities for improved public transportation, improved housing, and improved schools, ex.ex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...nt_Act_of_2009

And Obama even gave low income black Americans free cell phones (in this age where pay phones no longer exist.)
Obama Phone

Obama also tried to raise the min wage and lower credit card interest rates for low income black Americans (but republicans in congress stopped these laws from passing.)
GOP blocks minimum wage, sick leave proposals | TheHill
GOP Blocks Freeze On Credit Card Interest Rate Hikes | The Huffington Post


And inner city black Americans are dependent on the government for public housing, public transportation, food stamps, and healthcare. And the republicans trillions of dollars in tax cuts for the richest 1% of Americans raise America's deficits and national debt (and this reduces the financial strength and stability of America's government when inner city black Americans are dependent on the government.)

Take the 2016 election for example. Hillary Clinton's policies would have kept our national debt at 87% of GDP, but Donald Trump's policies will raise our national debt to 127% of GDP.

(And while keeping America's national debt 40% lower) Hillary would have spent "$350 billion more dollars on college education, $300 billion more on infrastructure, another $300 billion more on paid family leave, and nearly half a trillion more dollars on a variety of other similar initiatives" (while Trump will give that money to the richest 1% of Americans in tax cuts.)

Promises and Price Tags: A Fiscal Guide to the 2016 Election | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget


Having democrats in office keeps America's national debt lower, gives more money to inner cities, and keeps America's government more stable so it can continue to provide services to inner city black Americans.

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Old 01-26-2017, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Because republicans practice supply side/trickle down economics (this is literally tax cuts for the very rich and large corporations.)

Take Donald Trumps tax cuts for example. Trumps tax cuts will raise the poorest 20% of households after-tax income by 0.8%, raise the richest 1% of Americans after-tax income by 13.5%, and raise the richest 0.1% of Americans after-tax income by 14.2%.

Forbes Welcome

What percentage of inner city black Americans do you believe are stupid enough to vote for a 0.8% tax cut for themselves and a 14.2% tax cut for the richest 0.1% of Americans?
Any percentage that wants a job, anyway. Rich people create jobs, a fact totally lost on Leftists. They go on and on about the guy in the factory who is the REAL creator of wealth, not the CEO, but they don't seem to realize that there would be no factory if not for the CEO.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:26 PM
 
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It's that Black/Brown coalition.......anything to take the Euro-Caucasoid power-structure down.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:27 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Generally speaking Black Democrats are more socially conservative than the Democrat party platform and have a level of church attendance similar to evangelical Republicans. From my point of view as a 33 yr old White man the two issues that cause Blacks to vote Democrat at around a 90% rate are...


1. GOP has a lot of dog whistle messages the involve fear of Black men and too often GOP leaders don't stop it because it helps win rural seats. Other than a handful of libertarian voices like Rand Paul GOP is largely hostile towards an honest discussion with police brutality, mass incarceration, etc.


2. On average Blacks are less affluent and the GOP platform most benefits rich people against entry / low level workers. (minimum wage, allowing part time jobs with no benefits, promising welfare cuts, etc)
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