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I doubt the U.S. does either as it has a significant military budget outside of Europe.The target of 2% is on defense spending PERIOD, not 2% on defense spending for NATO.
(I just thought this distinction should be made. I don't dispute that the 2% target hadn't been met by most NATO countries.)
The U.S. also spends the highest proportion of its GDP on defense: 3.61%. The second biggest NATO spender in proportional terms is Greece, at 2.38%, according to NATO.
Bingo. If you aren't paying for your own defense, then you have lots of $ to use for social programs.
Europe has a military budget 5 times larger than Russia's. Dont act like you are so supportive of labor rights and a safety net. "we have to spend so much on military stuff so we cant afford anything else" is just an excuse Fox News serve their viewers.
It is 50 years past time for european citizens to pay with their own tax dollars for their own military! American taxpayers do not owe them further subsidies.
The U.S. also spends the highest proportion of its GDP on defense: 3.61%. The second biggest NATO spender in proportional terms is Greece, at 2.38%, according to NATO.
Re-read your link. The article clearly uses the words "overall defense spending".
Trump’s recent comments that NATO is "obsolete" have shaken European allies.
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“While there is a lot of discussion about closer cooperation in the European Union, there simply is no substitute for American military power," said Eyal. "Up to 75 percent of all the military assets in NATO belong to the United States.”
Currently Germany, along with several other European NATO allies, spend far less on defense than the 2 percent of GDP (Gross Domestic Product) they pledged to spend in 2014.
Yes Europe, the NATO gravy train may be over. They don't even spend 2 percent of their GDP for NATO.
I don't know why I thought of this... I hear people talk about we work too hard over here in America. We should be like the people in Europe who have all of this time off. Maybe they have all of that time off because we are working our butts off over here paying for NATO. No wonder they can take it easy. They may have to work a little harder if we split and they actually have to defend themselves.
(Semi-sarcasm alert on the last paragraph )
The EU has been working towards it's own military long before Trump was elected.
NATO isn't going away.
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Europe has a military budget 5 times larger than Russia's. Dont act like you are so supportive of labor rights and a safety net. "we have to spend so much on military stuff so we cant afford anything else" is just an excuse Fox News serve their viewers.
Do you not know that social security, and medicare/medicaid make up over 50% of the federal budget, and military/homeland security make up only 16%?
The Europeans will need to buy technology... they haven't developed significantly in military technology themselves... I wonder who they are going to buy it from? Win-win! The US doesn't spend money and people on NATO saves billions... The US doesn't have to get into conflicts that are right next to the EU anymore... The US can cut down on military bases... billions upon billions upon billions AND we make billions on selling low-level military hardware! The military spending by these countries will then turn more of their population into fiscal conservatives and liberals are dead in Europe as well... That's a Trump WIN!
What have you been drinking. Do you mistakenly think we still have a 20 year gap?
We don't, not even close. EU can fund and develop an F35 / 5th gen plane a lot faster then you think. and cheap drones will make these pointless without total air domination....
Our NATO allies are in fact the sole suppliers for a number of major components, Turkey and India want to build their own engines my friend.
you are so out of your depth it is shocking.
The big advantage we have is that we can avoid a land war at home, that is about it. Our weapons are cool but so are a whole bunch of nations.
Trump’s recent comments that NATO is "obsolete" have shaken European allies.
...
“While there is a lot of discussion about closer cooperation in the European Union, there simply is no substitute for American military power," said Eyal. "Up to 75 percent of all the military assets in NATO belong to the United States.”
Currently Germany, along with several other European NATO allies, spend far less on defense than the 2 percent of GDP (Gross Domestic Product) they pledged to spend in 2014.
Yes Europe, the NATO gravy train may be over. They don't even spend 2 percent of their GDP for NATO.
I don't know why I thought of this... I hear people talk about we work too hard over here in America. We should be like the people in Europe who have all of this time off. Maybe they have all of that time off because we are working our butts off over here paying for NATO. No wonder they can take it easy. They may have to work a little harder if we split and they actually have to defend themselves.
(Semi-sarcasm alert on the last paragraph )
I'd love to reduce the giant money sucking vacuum called the Pentagon.
Just like other areas of government, they need to see a budget reduction.
Fulfill our obligations to our troops and what they have earned while ending the train of money send to maintaining our military around the globe.
It's time our military was tasked with defending OUR shores not the borders of foreign lands.
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