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They aren't immigrants they are illegal aliens. Last I read there are a half million entering our country per year. I'm some years it has been much higher. Along with them criminals and would be terrorists are sneaking in also. The wall will be useful in deterring all of them.
The numbers are going down year to year, but if you were actually informed you would know that fact.
So how many terrorists have crossed the border and attacked us, oh yeah, ZERO.
Yes, of course. I'm over 65 and am well aware of the number of jobs replaced by automation. It's nothing new. Remember typing pools and switchboard operators? Remember when an elevator operator took you to your desired floor in a department store? When I was a kid, a milkman would deliver the milk. I have no problem with that at all. I was only saying that such a mandate should be enforced and employers who violate the law should be penalized. I've never supported hiring undocumented workers, no matter what country they're from. If we enforce the laws, then there will be no jobs available for those who are here illegally.
This discussion is about building a wall that will cost more than $15 billion and I was only saying the money can be spent in much more cost effective ways to deal with this issue. I've seen posts calling Mexicans "savages" and other hateful remarks. That's the reason for many of my replies, but I've never said that it's okay for anyone to break the law.
What's an undocumented worker? Again, it costs us $113 billion a year for illegal aliens compare that to a $15 billion wall. Do the math!
Most Americans do not call Mexicans savages in fact the objection is to those here illegally so let's not blur those lines, shall we? Why do you care what a "minority" of people say about "illegal" Mexicans anyway?Do you actually think that makes your case? There are plenty of Mexicans that say nasty things about anglos also so what's your point?
Why not stick to the topic at hand which is illegal immigration is unlawful and objectionable?
The numbers are going down year to year, but if you were actually informed you would know that fact.
So how many terrorists have crossed the border and attacked us, oh yeah, ZERO.
Ever see the twilight zone show - where the people all hypnotized. Hm hm get the picture
Can some one tell me how many immigrants per day are entering into US on average? If it is not that significant, wall might not be useful.
I posted a link earlier to a Pew Research study on immigration from 2014 which states that in the previous 5 years, only 7% of immigrants were from Mexico and 22% were from other countries.
[url=http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/03/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/]5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S. | Pew Research Center[/url]
"Meanwhile, the number of unauthorized immigrants from nations other than Mexico grew by 325,000 since 2009, to an estimated 5.3 million in 2014. Populations went up most for unauthorized immigrants from Asia and Central America, but the number also ticked up for those from sub-Saharan Africa. Increases in the number of unauthorized immigrants from other countries mostly offset the decline in the number from Mexico."
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I'm sorry but I don't understand the point you're trying to get across by posting this. What should the reader glean from these stats?
Well, I think I've been very clear, so you'll have to do your own gleaning. It's not difficult to extrapolate current trends in illegal immigration when you look at the statistics.
You can't go by what is happening TODAY. It may be zero, but what about next year? If Europeans asked how many Syrians are crossing their borders two years ago the answer was not many. They sat back and did nothing so when the wave came they were not prepared. The other ting is you can't pull the plug on a wall no matter who is in the White House.
I posted a link earlier to a Pew Research study on immigration from 2014 which states that in the previous 5 years, only 7% of immigrants were from Mexico and 22% were from other countries.
"Meanwhile, the number of unauthorized immigrants from nations other than Mexico grew by 325,000 since 2009, to an estimated 5.3 million in 2014. Populations went up most for unauthorized immigrants from Asia and Central America, but the number also ticked up for those from sub-Saharan Africa. Increases in the number of unauthorized immigrants from other countries mostly offset the decline in the number from Mexico."
Well, I think I've been very clear, so you'll have to do your own gleaning. It's not difficult to extrapolate current trends in illegal immigration when you look at the statistics.
The fact still remain that those here illegally are mostly Mexicans and other Latinos, overwhelmingly.
What's an undocumented worker? Again, it costs us $113 billion a year for illegal aliens compare that to a $15 billion wall. Do the math!
I've already addressed this claim. Your $113 billion a year figure is similar to the assertion that 5 million illegal immigrants voted on Nov 8 and I cannot possibly "do the math" based on erroneous data. You just reminded me of a course I took in college on logic and deductive reasoning. Forming a conclusion from an invalid premise is unreasonable.
Just one more thing: The wall does not address the problem you mentioned, no matter what it costs. Those people are ALREADY HERE.
I posted a link earlier to a Pew Research study on immigration from 2014 which states that in the previous 5 years, only 7% of immigrants were from Mexico and 22% were from other countries.
"Meanwhile, the number of unauthorized immigrants from nations other than Mexico grew by 325,000 since 2009, to an estimated 5.3 million in 2014. Populations went up most for unauthorized immigrants from Asia and Central America, but the number also ticked up for those from sub-Saharan Africa. Increases in the number of unauthorized immigrants from other countries mostly offset the decline in the number from Mexico."
Well, I think I've been very clear, so you'll have to do your own gleaning. It's not difficult to extrapolate current trends in illegal immigration when you look at the statistics.
Thanks for the information. There is always little concern in neighborhood about affect on school districts and home values going down. Everything is tied together so much in TX.
I've already addressed this claim. Your $113 billion a year figure is similar to the assertion that 5 million illegal immigrants voted on Nov 8 and I cannot possibly "do the math" based on erroneous data. You just reminded me of a course I took in college on logic and deductive reasoning. Forming a conclusion from an invalid premise is unreasonable.
The source has already been quoted why do you think it's erroneous data? Because it doesn't fit your biased agenda? Prove it wrong then from a viable source. I'll wait. Even if they only cost us $50 billion a year the wall would still be cheaper.
I haven't made any claims about how many illegals have voted or not voted.
I note you edited your post afterwards. Regardless of those already here those costs will continue to go up with the continued flow of illegal aliens into our country if we don't try to stop them. When are you going to address the fact the criminals and terrorists are slipping through our southern border also? You're willing put a price on our national security?
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There are plenty of Mexicans that say nasty things about anglos also so what's your point?
