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Old 01-26-2017, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Austin
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What does a sanctuary city get in return for harboring illegals? Cheap labor for business owners, virtue signaling for liberals, and illegal voters to elect the policians who allow them to reside in our city, perhaps?

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Old 01-26-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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States can't even ask for proof if they are registering to vote.
This is not true at all. If I recall correctly it's the wording of the federal motor voter bill that would prevent them from requiring proof of citizenship for federal elections. They can do whatever they want for state and local elections. An amendment to the motor voter bill would make the court ruling moot.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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you guys keep saying it makes the city "unsafer". Do you have evidence or data or anything to back that up?
So how many deaths and how much crime is acceptable to you? I'm sure Kate Steinles family thinks they're "unsafer".

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Old 01-26-2017, 05:56 PM
 
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The concept is simple, you want people to report crimes and to be witnesses. Well if those witnesses are afraid to report a crime because they are afraid to be deported you need to tell them you will not have them deported. The criminals need to go to jail and then be deported. We need to keep honest working people.

Its pretty simple and works.
Then deport them all.
Then nobody will be left to worry about being deported.
It really is that simple.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:58 PM
 
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So a person is arrested for a crime and the Police either don't bother to verify the suspects legal status or they are told not to by their boss the mayor or they simply let the guy go.
WHY?
For starters the census counts includes illegals. That count is used to allocate House seats, the electoral college votes that go with them and it's also used to distribute federal funding.

If every illegal immigrant was ejected from California one estimate suggests they would lose 5 House seats and the 5 electoral college votes that go with them. They would also lose a boatload of federal funding.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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So a person is arrested for a crime and the Police either don't bother to verify the suspects legal status or they are told not to by their boss the mayor or they simply let the guy go.
WHY?

What is in it for the cities and towns to ignore federal law? What is so great about having a percentage of your city population walking around the streets not beholden to any laws?
In some cities they get caught and are prosecuted IF they show up for their court date and in other cities they know that they will not show up so they are allowed to walk.

With Trump he is ending Federal funding to these cities and towns that are found in violation of the immigration laws which means they will be losing piles of money AND they are going to have to pay money back that they already received.

Why would a city choose to keep their status as a sanctuary city? Is it bragging rights to the other Liberal mayors? What exactly do they get by allowing illegals to thrive in their cities?
Liberals are really afraid of looking insensitive and racist. They'll let you murder their kids before wanting you to be deported because they don't want to look like bigots.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:59 PM
 
Location: United States
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So a person is arrested for a crime and the Police either don't bother to verify the suspects legal status or they are told not to by their boss the mayor or they simply let the guy go.
WHY?

What is in it for the cities and towns to ignore federal law? What is so great about having a percentage of your city population walking around the streets not beholden to any laws?
In some cities they get caught and are prosecuted IF they show up for their court date and in other cities they know that they will not show up so they are allowed to walk.

With Trump he is ending Federal funding to these cities and towns that are found in violation of the immigration laws which means they will be losing piles of money AND they are going to have to pay money back that they already received.

Why would a city choose to keep their status as a sanctuary city? Is it bragging rights to the other Liberal mayors? What exactly do they get by allowing illegals to thrive in their cities?
They get more low information democrat voters, the favorite voters of the DNC.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:00 PM
 
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Slave labor of course. Low wage, work to death work force. Meat packing plants, farms, construction companies, all want slave labor.
Just search around the internet for how we treat illegal workers, horrible conditions, low pay if any at all sometimes. Gross really. I'm always amazed people fight for this right.
Exactly, but if you point this out and resultant US worker wage stagnation you know what the response is?

1. You're just racist and xenophobic.
2. Well 6 million illegal workers don't impact worker wages....pshaw...supply and demand is for deplorables.

Meanwhile the same posters run to other threads saying stuff like:

1) The corporations underpay people.
2) worker wage stagnation
3) We need to increase minimum wage.

I haven't seen a group of voters this BS'd since the folks that kept insisting we eventually found WMDs in Iraq.

The democratic party used to support workers. Now they only do if they're govt. workers. The rest have become "racist deplorables" because the corporations have bought them off along with the repubs.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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For starters the census counts includes illegals. That count is used to allocate House seats, the electoral college votes that go with them and it's also used to distribute federal funding.

If every illegal immigrant was ejected from California one estimate suggests they would lose 5 House seats and the 5 electoral college votes that go with them. They would also lose a boatload of federal funding.
Yup. But economically they would break even as there cost would go down. While illegal aliens probably have zero overall impact it is clear the Feds make money and the states lose.

And the CA crime rates would go up. And go up worse if the illegals were replaced...which would likely happen.

I would also expect an illegal alien arrested for a crime to be tried and sentenced if guilty, then jailed and deported. If not guilty he should be released. I see no reason for ICE involvement if the guy is not convicted.
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Old 01-26-2017, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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So how many deaths and how much crime is acceptable to you? I'm sure Kate Steinles family thinks they're "unsafer".

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Get rid of illegals and replace with similar natives and crime goes up...well up likely so you are actually advocating more dead Kates. You just don't know it.
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