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Old 01-27-2017, 06:19 AM
 
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If it's that or your children go hungry you will do the job and appreciate the job every day.

And lose your sense of entitlement.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:35 AM
 
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The days of repetitious production based factory jobs are gone and aren't coming back no matter what govt policies are enacted. Robotics is here to stay.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Nesconset, NY
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Recently had a discussion with someone regarding if manufacturing jobs did come back to the country. That the current millennial generation would not want to work in a factory type setting no matter what the pay.

Though I have to admit in my younger years when i worked in a factory---I hated it. It was dirty, smelly, boring, just a total depressing job especially when working in an assembly line!
I've worked in a couple different factories and wholly agree that it was dirty, smelly, boring, and would add: loud, physically demanding, mind numbing, and low paying work.

The idea of manufacturing work being well-paying is largely contingent on whether or not one is in a manufacturing environment that requires training and skill (ie. CNC, welding, etc.). But when it comes to unskilled grunt work, well, that's a min. wage, non-union job and there's a line of applicants willing to take your place.

All of my factory work was through a temporary employment agency. All but the supervisors were temps. Just as one is qualified for benefits, based on continuous employment, the temp agency would notify one they "were no longer needed"....for 30 days...and a position would "open up" at a different factory. Everyone was rotated like this on a regular basis.

So it's not enough to talk about "manufacturing" but talk in terms of "full-time, regular (non-temp) jobs that pay a "union salary".
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I'd rather work in a factory than in food service. I hate food service jobs. I did those back in high school and college and hated every day of it. I'll at least try a factory job before returning to food service.

But those factory jobs are probably going to be like every other employment today and ask for 5+ years of experience doing a highly specific job. So the point here is moot. Millenials wont be qualified for them.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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The open floor concept common in big high tech office environments is very much like a factory floor.

Most tech offices don't have open office environments. Some tech people work from home.
But the biggest difference is that office work doesn't require standing. lifting and physical labor that could cause physical injury. Some factories don't have Air Conditioning, which means it's hot and brutal in the summer. Also most tech work pays better and has better opportunities for advancement.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:51 AM
 
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Nope, what manufacturing we would get back would be low paying and unsustainable. I also piddled too much time in college to do that. I actually liked food service jobs, I miss my "chef" days. But 8 years and 3 degrees later I'd be wasting time.

But I like using my head for a living, it pays better and is easier on my body. My starting pay was higher than most will ever make in a factory and I worked from home a lot of the time.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Recently had a discussion with someone regarding if manufacturing jobs did come back to the country. That the current millennial generation would not want to work in a factory type setting no matter what the pay.

Though I have to admit in my younger years when i worked in a factory---I hated it. It was dirty, smelly, boring, just a total depressing job especially when working in an assembly line!
Or do roofing under the Florida summer sun. I know people who work in construction, and they say there is no way they'd do roofing.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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I'd rather work in a factory than in food service. I hate food service jobs. I did those back in high school and college and hated every day of it. I'll at least try a factory job before returning to food service.

But those factory jobs are probably going to be like every other employment today and ask for 5+ years of experience doing a highly specific job. So the point here is moot. Millenials wont be qualified for them.
Right now there are plenty of openings for skilled manufacturing jobs that are not being filled. Some of them will train if you have basic knowledge but not enough people are going to trade school to even learn the basics for these jobs. Kids wont take entry level jobs or shift work to get a foot in the door.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:58 AM
 
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When I was younger, I knew a bunch of people who worked on the assembly line at Compaq Computers. They enjoyed their jobs and were proud to say they worked there.

I think there is an expectation from middle class young people that they should be in their own office with a window. I was guilty of that. I didn't want to be in a cube.

I'll bet there are a ton of millennials who would rather be on a line than manning a deep fryer.
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Old 01-27-2017, 07:01 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Im in a factory. We have millenials. Dirty work but it varies so monotony is not there and the health insurance is cheap to them.
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