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Old 01-27-2017, 03:27 PM
 
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I would be 50K poorer today if Bernie had won.
No you wouldn't
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Old 01-27-2017, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Houston
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No you wouldn't
The stock market boost would have been a stock market slump. Though I probably would have moved funds to safer havens to reduce the loss I definitely would have lost the gains since election day.
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Old 01-27-2017, 04:34 PM
 
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Me: They cheated.

You: So what.
Who is they? Donna Brazile, Billary or the whole campaign?

What politician gives all the facts regarding anything? Sins of ommisson or commission? Is that cheating?

The Rs have been telling the world they would repeal and replace ACA. Now, we know for sure they have nothing?
IMO, that's lying, cheating and stealing all rolled into one. THey would say Obama care is lying, cheating and stealing. Who is right? Is perception the only thing that matters?

My only wish is that all of them be judged by the standard.

I have no expectation of honesty from most politicians or their fans. IMO, Bernie was the most honest in almost all my life. Jon Huntsman is next.
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Old 01-27-2017, 05:14 PM
 
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Who is they? Donna Brazile, Billary or the whole campaign?

What politician gives all the facts regarding anything? Sins of ommisson or commission? Is that cheating?

The Rs have been telling the world they would repeal and replace ACA. Now, we know for sure they have nothing?
IMO, that's lying, cheating and stealing all rolled into one. THey would say Obama care is lying, cheating and stealing. Who is right? Is perception the only thing that matters?

My only wish is that all of them be judged by the standard.

I have no expectation of honesty from most politicians or their fans. IMO, Bernie was the most honest in almost all my life. Jon Huntsman is next.
I don't care what the R's did.
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Old 01-27-2017, 05:18 PM
 
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I don't care what the R's did.
IMO, they control the fate of the world as we know it, now. Somebody better be caring.
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Old 01-27-2017, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
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IMO, they control the fate of the world as we know it, now. Somebody better be caring.
Look, the republicans and trump have two years to rule with little interference. Basically the people on the left have to just sit back and watch.

Everything is on the republican and trump. They will either succeed or fail basically on their own. If they are successful the left most likely shall be out on the cold for a while. If they fail to live up to expectation of the general electorate there is a chance the dems can start trying to gain some sort of control back.

So let's see where everything shakes out.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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Bernie Sanders is a mainstream New Deal Democrat like FDR. Call social security and Medicare "socialist" all you want, Sanders would fit right into conservative political parties in Canada or Europe.

That youtuber sounds clinically insane. Why should we take anything he says seriously? What specifically is the issue here? Some "small business owner" who blames his incompetence on unnamed "regulations" from Obama?
Sanders is a self described socialist not a democrat. Far from mainstream even for the democrats.

Bernie Sanders

"Do they think Iím afraid of the word? Iím not afraid of the word," he said in an interview with The Nation published in July. "When I ran for the Senate the first time, I ran against the wealthiest guy in the state of Vermont. He spent a lot on advertising ó very ugly stuff. He kept attacking me as a liberal. He didnít use the word Ďsocialistí at all, because everybody in the state knows that I am that."

I am very glad he did not win. His ideas were tried in Cuba and Venezuela. Don't need it here.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I wish I had known a little more about Sanders during the election. From what I have seen of him lately, the man is intelligent, articulate, and cares about America deeply. He is head and shoulders above what we currently have sitting in the oval office in every respect.

He is not even close to the "get it done" levels of Daddy.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:29 PM
 
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IMO, they control the fate of the world as we know it, now. Somebody better be caring.
No they don't.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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I would be 50K poorer today if Bernie had won.

Oh... so YOU'RE one of those EVIL 1%ers who owns 90% of everything by polluting the air and poisoning the food huh?!

Sorry man, I just couldn't resist trying to see what my post would sound like if I wore a Bernie Muppet costume.
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