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Old 01-27-2017, 02:59 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader View Post
You really should educate yourself on how our government works.

Congress passes a law with a broad framework and goals. It leaves it up to an agency to pass regulations to achieve those goals. Every agency has regulations to carry out its mission.

Here's the code of federal regulations so you can read all of them yourself:


eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations
I find nothing in there to challenge what I said.

The problem is found in your statement, "It leaves it up to an agency to pass regulations".
The EPA is not doing anything illegal.
The EPA is doing something that is self serving. It is out of control.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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It leaves it up to an agency to pass regulations to achieve those goals.

That structure is one of the most retarded ideas I've heard. How do federal agency officials that pass regulations outlive elected officials' tenure? No wonder they're getting gutted.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:59 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Or maybe he can fire the EPA employees who oversaw totally worthless expenditures, like handing $8,031,829 to the Natl Asian Pacific Center on Aging.

Because, you know, that really helped the environment, right?

Wake up.
sounds interesting. what's the story there?
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Well, if Trump wants his infrastructure plans carried out, he'll need all those guys who are facing lay-off to come back to work pretty soon.

Once an aging nuclear power blows its top, Trump will wish he hadn't messed with the EPA. They are one of the agencies that are keeping the lids safely on those kettles, along with a lot of our other most critical industries.
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Old 01-27-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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To hell with safe drinking water standards and enforcement, nuclear waste water disposal regulations, stopping toxic waste dumping, safe working environments, and clean air. Who needs it?
Good point - the EPA did such a wonderful job with the Flint, MI water poisoning and the Gold Mine disaster (that they deliberately caused) in Colorado.
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Old 01-27-2017, 03:04 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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That structure is one of the most retarded ideas I've heard. How do federal agency officials that pass regulations outlive elected officials' tenure? No wonder they're getting gutted.
So you're saying all laws should only last as long as their authors are in office? That's an unusual stance. What's in place now has worked for over 200 years...
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Old 01-27-2017, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Let's hope it's not quite a change for air & water quality among other things.
I don't see much changing, unless he reverses some of the regulations they had passed.
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Old 01-27-2017, 03:07 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Well, if Trump wants his infrastructure plans carried out, he'll need all those guys who are facing lay-off to come back to work pretty soon.

Once an aging nuclear power blows its top, Trump will wish he hadn't messed with the EPA. They are one of the agencies that are keeping the lids safely on those kettles, along with a lot of our other most critical industries.
Department of Energy Office of Environmental Management handles nuclear issues.
https://energy.gov/em/office-environmental-management

Nothing unusual about your statement, however. Most people make that mistake.
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Old 01-27-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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So you're saying all laws should only last as long as their authors are in office? That's an unusual stance. What's in place now has worked for over 200 years...
I am saying that federal officials who pass regulations are not beholden to voters, thus their tenure usually outlives the Congresscritters' terms who passed the initial law in the first place.

That idea is the retarded one.
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Old 01-27-2017, 03:09 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Good point - the EPA did such a wonderful job with the Flint, MI water poisoning and the Gold Mine disaster (that they deliberately caused) in Colorado.

Okay that comment on the CO mine spill is as absurd and idiotic as I've heard yet. The only people who deliberately polluted that water are the miners who dumped the chemicals there and did not even properly seal them off. A private contractor hired by the EPA was investigating how to properly seal up and clean up that mess when the seal was lost. That all falls on the miners who raped the land and ran when it came time to clean it up.
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