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Old 03-09-2017, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The EPA had 1/3 the staff when it was created in 1970 and it had a job that was 100 times larger than it does now. In 1970, virtually every river in the nation was polluted and there were tens of thousands of sites across the nation that were being actively destroyed by the disposal of heavy metals, volatile organic compounds etc.

The rivers are now clean and there are fewer and fewer superfund sites being discovered every year. Maybe we can scale back a bit?
The rivers are considerably cleaner but there is also considerably more development, more industry, more development after 50 years. We also accomplished considerable more research on carcinogens and chemicals in our environment. Look at the mines and sewage leaching into our ground water.


We didn't need to carry around water bottles for pure drinking water in 1970, that should be the canary in the mine but that is now somehow accepted as normal. Pure drinking water will be more valuable than oil.
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Old 03-09-2017, 07:46 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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It'll make more money for Trump and his fellow billionaires and millionaires if corporations can poison Americans with pollution again.
Shouldn't it be "millionaires and billionaires"?
Wait, why is my tap water brown?
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Old 03-09-2017, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Constitutional USA, zn.8A
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If this comes to pass, it will be quite a change for the EPA.
Trump plans to cut EPA staff in half | Washington Examiner
Wait ! - his promise to "drain the swamp", can't be done only 1/2 way. All too soon, the swamp will fill-up, again. Yikes!

Now 1/10 (of that EPA swamp) might be reasonable, & tax-bearers could sustain. Yeah for tax-reductions !!
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Old 03-09-2017, 08:01 PM
 
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this will be a good thing
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Old 03-09-2017, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Constitutional USA, zn.8A
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Hyperbole much?

What does clean water have to do with tiny spiders blocking $15 Million construction projects? What does clean air have to do with denying California farmers irrigation water because of a little fish the EPA wants to protect?

Ending the overbearing pointless regulatory nightmare of the EPA, will not end the need for clean water, clean air and ensuring the health and safety of the American workforce.
Well said.
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Old 03-09-2017, 08:39 PM
 
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Ooh, these career bureaucrats might actually have to make an honest living in the private sector! The problem is nobody wants them.
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Old 03-09-2017, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Well said.
Small things at the bottom of the food chain have a lot to do with the environment and our health, the dissapearance of things like frogs. They are a warning that we have a problem.
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Old 03-09-2017, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If this comes to pass, it will be quite a change for the EPA.

Trump plans to cut EPA staff in half | Washington Examiner
Oh no. Who will stop people from putting ponds on their property even though the city has already okayed it?
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Old 03-11-2017, 01:24 AM
 
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Default I didn't vote for Trump and his nature-hating cronies

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If this comes to pass, it will be quite a change for the EPA.

Trump plans to cut EPA staff in half | Washington Examiner
Send all those GOP ingrates to some polluted industrial zone or Chinese city with foul air and water, so they can practice what they preach instead of taking the EPA's legacy of priceless benefits for granted. What sort of vile people think more pollution is a sign of progress? (rhetorical question there)

Actually, everyone who actively promotes a growth-based economy is part of the problem, along with those who go along via apathy. There's a brainless mentality of always having to expand the human footprint while depleting nature in the process. It's a classic scenario of a parasite killing it's host.

Instead of always demanding more "job creation" and destruction of nature (which the EPA is seen as thwarting) ask yourself why the population "must" keep growing, and why we don't accept that behavior in other species. Anthropocentrism is the one-word answer, plus a ton of arrogance.
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