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Old 01-27-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Richmond,VA
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Every day is Christmas Day with President Trump in charge. Can't wait to see what's under the tree tomorrow!
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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To hell with safe drinking water standards and enforcement, nuclear waste water disposal regulations, stopping toxic waste dumping, safe working environments, and clean air. Who needs it?
Settle down, Francis... We're still going to have clean air and water and safe working environments.

Good grief.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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The EPA was created by Nixon not Obama. The EPA has saved many thousands of lives from an early death or severe health problems due to pollution.
I know it was not created by him but the large number of people working there is from Obama increasing government and bloating it.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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If this comes to pass, it will be quite a change for the EPA.

Trump plans to cut EPA staff in half | Washington Examiner
Only a completely inexperienced public servant would think that state environmental regulators can replace federal.

No matter how many times you explain the issues to these people, they just won't get it.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Every day is Christmas Day with President Trump in charge. Can't wait to see what's under the tree tomorrow!
Trump is every Buckley Conservatives dream come true!

I hope he get's his 1 Trillion dollar stimulus package passed as well. God it would be awesome.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:36 PM
 
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Settle down, Francis... We're still going to have clean air and water and safe working environments.

Good grief.
Not without the EPA.

There is literally no one else capable of doing that job. Private companies and state legislators have massive incentives to pollute. Localities have no authority, and the judicial system is a joke.

Y'all don't know what you're getting yourselves into.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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I know it was not created by him but the large number of people working there is from Obama increasing government and bloating it.
It's been shrinking not growing under Obama.


https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-over...nt-since-1962/
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I know it was not created by him but the large number of people working there is from Obama increasing government and bloating it.
Rep. Morgan Griffith says EPA job growth outstips that of U.S. government | PolitiFact Virginia

Not exactly man.. The EPA was a consolidation of personnel back in the 70's. During it's infancy it was 8,000 personnel, swelled in 2011 and has retracted since.

But it is large.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:39 PM
 
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The EPA needs more teeth not fewer.

"The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) "battled Michigan's Department of Environmental Quality behind the scenes for at least six months over whether Flint needed to use chemical treatments to keep lead lines and plumbing connections from leaching into drinking water" and "did not publicize its concern that Flint residents' health was jeopardized by the state's insistence that such controls were not required by law".[90] In 2015, EPA water expert Miguel A. Del Toral "identified potential problems with Flint's drinking water in February, confirmed the suspicions in April and summarized the looming problem" in an internal memo[91] circulated on June 24, 2015.[90]

Despite these "dire warnings" from Del Toral,[92] the memo was not publicly released until November 2015, after a revision and vetting process.[90] In the interim, the EPA and the Michigan DEQ engaged in a dispute on how to interpret the Lead and Copper Rule. According to EPA Region 5 Administrator Susan Hedman, the EPA pushed to immediately implement corrosion controls in the interests of public health, while the Michigan DEQ sought to delay a decision on corrosion control until two six-month periods of sampling had been completed.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis
2015? Right on time.

Um no. What we need are citizens who have more access to their own local governments and this include environmental concerns. I am all for an EPA that exposes local governments which by your own admission it did not do. Behind the scenes? How cozy.

The EPA should act more like journalists and less like police. Tell the locals what's going on immediately. If the locals are happy to drink poison then well, OK, but I doubt it.


However a lot of this is besides the point. The EPA should be wiped out and rebuilt. Its an old bureaucracy that needs to die at the end of its life cycle. It is clearly in the phase of it life cycle of merely preserving itself.
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Old 01-27-2017, 02:40 PM
 
Location: MA
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There are a lot of government agencies that need to be slimmed down. He needs to look at all the waste that happens and stop the hemorrhage somewhere.
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