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Old 01-29-2017, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Born in L.A. - NYC is Second Home - Rustbelt is Home Base
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While all the while the State is working as hard as they can to disarm it's People.

If they secede, all guns will be confiscated in CA.

 
Old 01-29-2017, 08:15 AM
 
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It gets tiresome educating the liberals.

Let them take California, and then we'll just invade and take it back. It'll be easy as they won't have any guns.

We can deport them to Iran since they love it so much.

Problem solved.
 
Old 01-29-2017, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Born in L.A. - NYC is Second Home - Rustbelt is Home Base
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You really haven't been paying attention have you.

Recap: The feds are doing this as a result of several California cities refusing to enforce federal law. In other words, these cities started this stupid fight.

Additionally, the Feds are asking for no more than cooperation. When ICE requests you detain someone, you should detain them.

RIP Kate Steinle.


Should be automatic and the law. You arrest someone, first thing to check is their immigration status. You don't do it, you go to jail. ICE tells you to detain and you don't...guess what...you go to jail.
 
Old 01-29-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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Should be automatic and the law. You arrest someone, first thing to check is their immigration status. You don't do it, you go to jail. ICE tells you to detain and you don't...guess what...you go to jail.
Then pass a Constitutional.Amendment that will allow for that. This is not going to get solved the lazy way.

The lazy way is only going to cause more damage down the road.
 
Old 01-29-2017, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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I just cant help but lol at all these out-of-staters presuming to tell us how things are going to go down in our state.

Dream on.
 
Old 01-29-2017, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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I just cant help but lol at all these out-of-staters presuming to tell us how things are going to go down in our state.

Dream on.
The intelligent citizen doesn't think of a coercive government as "his/her state"; that is the mindset of a wannabee Fascist.
 
Old 01-29-2017, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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I just cant help but lol at all these out-of-staters presuming to tell us how things are going to go down in our state.

Dream on.
The intelligent citizen doesn't think of a coercive government as "our state"; that is the mindset of a wannabee Fascist, who has plans for anybody else who doesn't see it his way.

Just keep your state's plans among the minority who agree with you, your state's nose out of other peoples' lives, and your state's hands off other peoples' property.

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Haha from a Trump supporter, you must admit that's highly ironic.

lol
FWIW, I voted for Johnson, and merely see Trump as the lesser of two evils, the brighter(?) of two dim bulbs.

Last edited by 2nd trick op; 01-29-2017 at 10:11 AM..
 
Old 01-29-2017, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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The intelligent citizen doesn't think of a coercive government as "his/her state"; that is the mindset of a wannabee Fascist.
Haha from a Trump supporter, you must admit that's highly ironic.

lol
 
Old 01-29-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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Dream on, buddy.. Dream on. Your vision of what is productive and what is nonproductive seems rather odd & out of touch with reality. You must believe in the new "alt facts" mindset. You're welcome to that, buddy.
Actually the ENTIRE state is productive & to such a degree that California recently passed Frances to become the world's 6th largest economy. See the link below for that info.
And check out the correction to your agricultural counties statement as seen from sleepy.


California surpasses France as world's sixth-largest economy | Reuters
Hey-

That's okay. Unless CA has its own army, we could take the "wheat" from the land mass of CA and leave the urban ghettos and desert to Mexico.

1. Keep in mind that "The State of Jefferson" has been a movement since the 1930s to break off from CA.

2. AG is heavily subsidized by the feds, not so much by the state.

3. Sans this year, you have a water problem. One needs only to drive around Fresno to understand that the natural condition of that land is very dry and is only productive (for now) via irrigation.

4. Due to massive influx of illegals, your incomes are declining.

5. Due to massive influx of illegals, your education and healthcare is declining.

6. The US has a very large naval base we call San Diego.

7. Look at the counties that voted for Trump- half the land mass of CA (and probably all of the ag counties) would vote to stay in the US.

8. There is not a "right" to secession in the Constitution. The US has an army, navy and airforce to enforce such efforts. CA would be under marshal law.
 
Old 01-29-2017, 09:01 AM
 
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Probable cause? How about ICE goes up to a prospect for a conversation. The prospect can't speak English. Is that probable cause enough? In L.A. they could work round the clock 24/7 hauling away the illegals.
When has that ever been used as the basis for an ICE detainer?
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