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Old 01-28-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by illtaketwoplease View Post
Great - Feds will seize bank accounts, investments and real estate to cover any shortfall. CA residents will be pissed once they find out their life savings vaporized. They'll have to find that out online though because there will be no US post office service...

Then they should blame the elected officials of Calif. for it not the feds.

 
Old 01-28-2017, 03:44 PM
 
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This is EXACTLY how to respond to a bully like Donald Trump-we'll keep our HALF-TRILLION dollars here in-state and moocher red states can eat [MOD CUT/profanity]

SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) – The state of California is studying ways to suspend financial transfers to Washington after the Trump administration threatened to withhold federal money from sanctuary cities, KPIX 5 has learned.

California Could Cut-Off Feds In Response To Trump Threats « CBS San Francisco




All in order to support the wrongful actions (& inactions) of Sanctuary cities/


No one can defend this.
 
Old 01-28-2017, 03:59 PM
 
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Lol, cities in California are harboring people who are illegally in the country, a direct violation of federal law, but yet the federal government is the bad guy?

Why are cities not assisting the federal government with enforcing federal law?

By the way, the federal government will win this battle, and it will be at the expense of the citizens of California.
don't be foolish, this is already tested, you clearly don't know, and Trump does not care if he is beaten as long as he gets to pretend to his cheerleaders that he is doing something.

The fed does not have the power.. or did you forget what happened with Obama ...
 
Old 01-28-2017, 04:13 PM
 
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It's racist to bully the undocumented. Aren't you embarrassed to be American? We steal from everyone. We take, take.

He will not Divide us. We need to protect the undocumented and stop racist Trump.

We can not put Americans first.
Hot dam the audacity of delusion!

LOL LOL LOL this is the funniest troll I've ever seen!

Really I think you missed your calling. Ralphie May look out!
 
Old 01-28-2017, 04:20 PM
 
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don't be foolish, this is already tested, you clearly don't know, and Trump does not care if he is beaten as long as he gets to pretend to his cheerleaders that he is doing something.

The fed does not have the power.. or did you forget what happened with Obama ...
You are WRONG - The "fed" does have the Power to enforce US Law. The President does have the Power to issue directives to the DOJ and Homeland Security to enforce the US Laws on the books - in this particular case, it's a law signed by Bill Clinton in 1996. Part of that Law says the States may receive particular Grants and Funding to 'help' ICE. These Sanctuary Cities/States (California & Connecticut are now designated Sanctuary States) took the money, but did not use it properly.

Trump targets sanctuary cities in executive order |Washington Examiner - 1/25/17

It's true that the Federal Government can't "force" them to follow US Immigration Law (although Obama sued Arizona and won on that issue) - but they don't have to give them the Funding and Grants when they don't fulfill their obligations under those Grants.

It's a LOT of Money - these States/Cities were warned by letter from the Department of Justice at the direction of AG Loretta Lynch that they were on notice. The letter went out the end of May 2016. Though the federal government cannot legally compel states to comply with federal law, it is permitted to use financial rewards or incentives to encourage states to comply. This precedent was established in the 1992 Supreme Court case New York v. United States and has been upheld and strengthened since, and thus the Justice Department’s guidance in this instance clearly falls under constitutional precedent.

Read more at: Sanctuary Cities & Federal Law: Congress


Three federal grants in particular would be in question for sanctuary cities: the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program (SCAAP), which provides reimbursements for the expense of incarcerating illegal aliens; Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS), which funds community policing efforts; and Byrne-JAG grants, which fund miscellaneous spending for state and local law-enforcement agencies.

These Sanctuary States/Cities can do what they choose - they just won't get the money and there is still the chance that the DOJ will want a refund of the money they took and didn't use according to the LAW.
 
Old 01-28-2017, 04:20 PM
 
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Californias income is more then the bottom 26 states.....combined. Texas and New York are the only states that even come close.
Big deal. I'm sure California receives many times worth of food stamps, earned income credits, Medicaid, and so forth than many of the smaller States. So what's your point?

I would add that given the Feds have been spending a trillion dollars more than it takes in year after year, maybe there's been a hundred billion dollars more flowing into CA each year than they've sent to DC.
 
Old 01-28-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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It's racist to bully the undocumented. Aren't you embarrassed to be American? We steal from everyone. We take, take.

He will not Divide us. We need to protect the undocumented and stop racist Trump.

We can not put Americans first.
I'm almost at a loss for words. We can't put American's first? Really? Do you have an upper limit on how many illegals you're OK with the American public having to support? Ten million more than we have now? A hundred million more? A billion more?
 
Old 01-28-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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Florida should join, and transplant snow birds. Go home !
 
Old 01-28-2017, 04:27 PM
 
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This country belongs to the world. Give us your tired, your poor. We'll give back our racist cops. Love trumps hate.
Belongs to the world? Are you serious? Assuming for the moment you own a home. Is it yours or does some illegal have the right to walk in and say that extra bedroom is now theirs? And what's for dinner because you have to feed me too.

America belongs to Americans, not anyone else.
 
Old 01-28-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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What makes you think they're not? ICE does indeed have detention facilities in California; 10 of them. The problem is that the LAPD, the city, etc., won't cooperate with them. One simple call, and the illegal is taken into federal custody for impending deportation.
At least four federal courts have held that detaining a person on an 'ICE detainer' violates the 4th amendment. A number of jurisdictions in both conservative and liberal states have stopped honoring them because of liability issues.
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