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Old 01-28-2017, 08:15 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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And no one says differently. We can argue about who and how many should be let in, but clearly the US has the power to do this.




But the fact is that permanent residents ARE BEING DENIED. Right now, this minute. People who left on business trips and vacations are now, with no warning, being told that they can't come home for 90 days. And you appear to be just dandy with this.
For Christ's sake reread my first response to you.

And as a matter of fact, reread other posts. Most of the posters are denying the US has the authority to deny entry period.
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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It only took 19 to do 9-11.
And under this EO, those 19 could still come in, no problem.
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:17 PM
 
Location: The Pacific Northwest
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The incompetence is appalling. If you have a soul, whether you're a Republican evangelical Christian or a liberal atheist, you should be outraged.

Syrian Christian immigrants turned back at airport - CNN.com
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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Sad. These people came here legally, the right way. They have homes, jobs and families in the US. These people are taxpaying members of our country and many perform high-skilled labor and are productive members of society. Tech workers, engineers, doctors. He could have at least put these people on notice so they could make travel arrangements to return. There was no advance warning about permanent residents being barred entry, just visa applicants and refugees. There will most definitely be lawsuits.

I find it interesting that Saudi Arabia isn't on the list of banned countries, even though Saudi Arabia is the mother ship of radical Islamic extremism and exports it all over the world. And their citizens can still get a visa and come to the US. Didn't really make sense, but then I remembered, Trump does business in Saudi Arabia.

Unknown number of U.S. permanent residents stuck overseas as a result of Trump's immigration ban - LA Times
There is will be modifications I'm sure. The HB1 Visas have been hurting domestic workers. This is undeniable. It's not their fault. It's been the systems.


Thankfully this is another thing Trump has talked about improving. Why not have more domestically trained Doctors? This is another topic I can go round and round with pretty much destroying any type of argument from the other side.

Yet another thing that Trump is doing right!


Every cry from those that oppose it is like a sweet victory. I'm relishing every bit of it.
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Jonesboro
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Default Trump executive order..

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Interesting is it not? You would think the first country on the list would be the source of the 9/11 hijackers.

You know a humanitarian thing that Trump might consider...a mid size A Bomb or two in the right place in SA. I believe I could make a cogent case that such an action is probably the best thing the US could do. Follow up with one in North Korea.

Too old missiles and the world improves a 1000%.

And Trump is the right guy to do it.
You have touched on a fact that is missing from the knowledge of many Americans I'm afraid; the fact that all 19 hijackers were from either Yemen or Saudi Arabia & that NONE WERE FROM IRAQ.
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:19 PM
 
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The incompetence is appalling. If you have a soul, whether you're a Republican evangelical Christian or a liberal atheist, you should be outraged.

Syrian Christian immigrants turned back at airport - CNN.com

IF their tickets were purchased ahead of the ban, they should be allowed in, post vetting. If purchased after, once the temp order is removed, keep them out.


Borders matter.
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Storrs, CT
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Fantastic news. Visa holders and refugees of those countries currently inside the US are also safe from being deported.

A US judge has issued a stay temporarily halting the deportation of visa holders or refugees under an executive order from President Trump.

Trump executive order: US judge temporarily halts deportations - BBC News
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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The incompetence is appalling. If you have a soul, whether you're a Republican evangelical Christian or a liberal atheist, you should be outraged.

Syrian Christian immigrants turned back at airport - CNN.com
Sadly they were let in!


Stopping the flow of refugees is going to be painful. However have the Obama Administration opening the flood gates is dangerous to American Safety at home.


I grow tire of seeing Liberals making excuses for those countries who mean us harm!
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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The incompetence is appalling. If you have a soul, whether you're a Republican evangelical Christian or a liberal atheist, you should be outraged.

Syrian Christian immigrants turned back at airport - CNN.com
It's not incompetence. He says his EO is working very nicely.

TRUMP MEANT TO TURN BACK THOSE SYRIAN CHRISTIANS.
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Springfield
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There is will be modifications I'm sure. The HB1 Visas have been hurting domestic workers. This is undeniable. It's not their fault. It's been the systems.


Thankfully this is another thing Trump has talked about improving. Why not have more domestically trained Doctors? This is another topic I can go round and round with pretty much destroying any type of argument from the other side.

Yet another thing that Trump is doing right!


Every cry from those that oppose it is like a sweet victory. I'm relishing every bit of it.
The visa is H1B.

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