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Old 01-29-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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The constitution does not apply to NON-US CITIZENS. Not even green card holders.

You Liberals are so lost... Do you know that the NAZI party was founded and copied form Mussolini's fascist government ? Yes, the nazis are the NATIONAL SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY. Liberals are wannabe "SOCIALISTS" .... so in theory liberals are more fascist than republicans.
I am not a liberal but you need to get your facts straight.

The constitution covers all people including illegals within in the territory of US; however, illegals cannot own firearms and neither the illegals or non-citizens can vote. The illegals do not have a right to live here either.

The constitution does not cover people outside of the borders of the US.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:09 AM
 
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STOP WITH THE CNN PROPAGANDA. THESE GREEN CARD HOLDERS WILL BE ABLE TO RE-ENTER. THEY JUST NEED TO BE RE-SCREENED. Who knows if someone went over there and was radicalized and now is returning back..







A senior White House official later sought to clarify the situation, saying green card holders who had left the United States and wanted to return would have to visit a U.S. embassy or consulate to undergo additional screening.

"You will be allowed to re-enter the United States pending a routine rescreening," the official said.








Green card holders will need additional screening: White House | Reuters
Well, that's friggin big of them. How long is this "routine screening" supposed to take?

Some of these people were not coming back from the Middle East at all.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:10 AM
 
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If they were refugees from Israel the libbies would hate them libbies are trying to destroy the country with their Muslims and illegal immigrants.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:10 AM
 
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Of course it does.
The Constitution and Bill of Rights covers the territory of the United States.

You don't have to be a citizen to be covered by those laws.
If a non-citizen has NOT been allowed to re-enter the US, they are not covered by the US Constitution.

What many people don't know is that non-citizen Green Card holders (Legal Permanent Residents) are NOT guaranteed automatic re-entry to the US.

Straight from the source:

If seeking to enter the United States after temporary travel abroad, you will need to present a valid, unexpired “green card” (Form I-551, Permanent Resident Card). When arriving at a port of entry, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection Officer will review your permanent resident card and any other identity documents you present, such as a passport, foreign national I.D. card or U.S. Driver’s License, and determine if you can enter the United States.

https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/aft...sident#reenter

Got that? "IF you can enter the United States."

A lot of the confusion and flat out lies could be avoided if the chronically ignorant would just educate themselves.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:15 AM
 
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STOP WITH THE CNN PROPAGANDA. THESE GREEN CARD HOLDERS WILL BE ABLE TO RE-ENTER. THEY JUST NEED TO BE RE-SCREENED.
It appears you agree that Trump changed the rules on them with no warning, glad we had this chat.

And radicalized? In week? Grabbing for straws.

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"You will be allowed to re-enter the United States pending a routine rescreening," the official said.
Interesting definition of "routine", there. Because it's a brand news process they're setting up.

See, if the incompetent chunkmuppet you put in the White House had the slightest idea of the job, he'd have realized that it's important to cover these sort of details when you make a broad policy change, But the man has no clue.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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Actually, the constitution does protect non-citizens in certain ways. Even illegal immigrants.
It does not apply to non-citizens who are not permitted to enter the US. Period. US Immigration can indeed refuse re-entry to Green Card holders. Read my prior post.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:17 AM
 
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The constitution does not apply to NON-US CITIZENS. Not even green card holders.
On US territory, it does. Why do you think GWB placed his little torture camp on Cuban soil?
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:18 AM
 
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Well, that's friggin big of them. How long is this "routine screening" supposed to take?

Some of these people were not coming back from the Middle East at all.
a "routine" re-screening... something that is already done.. Im sure they just are going to get re-screened to see if they weren't radicalized over in the middle east.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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On US territory, it does. Why do you think GWB placed his little torture camp on Cuban soil?
Umm, Guantanamo is, by definition, US territory.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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I am not a liberal but you need to get your facts straight.

The constitution covers all people including illegals within in the territory of US; however, illegals cannot own firearms and neither the illegals or non-citizens can vote. The illegals do not have a right to live here either.

The constitution does not cover people outside of the borders of the US.
as stated before....


Immigration proceedings are matters of administrative law, not criminal law. Not all aspects of the confutation apply to non-citizens. Some do , but not all.....

Right to Bear Arms?

Right To Hold a Government Job?
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