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Old 01-29-2017, 08:04 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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He's banned all citizens from those countries, including dual passport holders and legal permanent residents.

Including people who have already gone through "extreme vetting" and we're turned away yesterday after years of going through the process.

Those that returned rather than be detained at the airport not only had to pay for their flights back, they've effectively got a removal on their record.
Where in his order does it say "banned"? That means PERMANENTLY which in my understanding is not the actual case.
It is my understanding that these people will need to be vetted further before entering and if it's not possible to do said vetting then they won't be allowed in.

My only issue with this is that several countries that SHOULD be on the list are not.
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:04 AM
 
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Yep, and neither have all of the other TERRORISTS that have mounted successful attacks in the U.S....
It's not the plan to NOT let anyone in, the plan is to be as sure as we can be that those that are coming in are A. Who they say they are B. Exactly what they claim to be.
Why is that a bad thing?
That is not a bad thing but that's not the whole story.

He is banning ALL CITIZENS from these countries.

That includes dual passport holders (say the UK and Syria) that have lived in the UK their whole lives.

He's not letting ANYONE from those countries in.
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:06 AM
 
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Where in his order does it say "banned"? That means PERMANENTLY which in my understanding is not the actual case.
It is my understanding that these people will need to be vetted further before entering and if it's not possible to do said vetting then they won't be allowed in.

My only issue with this is that several countries that SHOULD be on the list are not.
They've already been vetted!

How long do you think vetting takes? It takes YEARS.

It bans Legal Permanent Residents. It's not a refugee ban it's a ban on ALL CITIZENS.
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Maine
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It's temporary. Calm down. Hysterical, hyperbolic and deranged liberal attacks seem really immature and unreasonable.
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Where in his order does it say "banned"? That means PERMANENTLY which in my understanding is not the actual case.
It is my understanding that these people will need to be vetted further before entering and if it's not possible to do said vetting then they won't be allowed in.

My only issue with this is that several countries that SHOULD be on the list are not.
Do you have ANY idea ho much vetting these people have already been through? Any?
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:14 AM
 
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It's temporary. Calm down. Hysterical, hyperbolic and deranged liberal attacks seem really immature and unreasonable.
So if you were kept out of your home for let's say, 60 days - would you not mind because it was just temporary?
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:14 AM
 
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Y'all think terrorism is bad just wait. You off the wall Trump supporters y'all going to get just what you ask for. What he is doing I see another 9/11 happening. This type of stuff is going to cause more isis recruits domestically.
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:14 AM
 
Location: USA
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I don't care for Syrian refugees, honestly. Banning green card holders from returning to the country is BS, though, and stranding them in airports shows that Trump doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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I would like to see all immigration stopped until our own country stabilizes. The cost to bring in one Syrian refugee and support them is $65,000 EACH. We have elderly that can't afford their medical care and medications, thousands of disabled Americans waiting for services, homeless citizens including families, failing infrastructure, inadequate schools.............

I support whatever Trump and his administration want to do. I support America First.
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:17 AM
 
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I would like to see all immigration stopped until our own country stabilizes. The cost to bring in one Syrian refugee and support them is $65,000 EACH. We have elderly that can't afford their medical care and medications, thousands of disabled Americans waiting for services, homeless citizens including families, failing infrastructure, inadequate schools.............

I support whatever Trump and his administration want to do. I support America First.
The legal permanent residents that are now barred from entering are doctors, engineers etc.

They aren't taking money out of your mouth.

Good god this whole thing is STUPID and none of you understand wtf is happening here.
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