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Old 01-30-2017, 09:46 PM
 
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Donald Trump and his election is about the transformation of the USA from a large federal power to a confederation of power back to localized factions.

What you are going to see is a weakening of most Federal institutions, a pull back of any diplomacy not business related, and disruption of the government in general. There should be no surprise - he has said this since day one. He'll set up a political boundary (borders) and direct the flow of trade out.

You might think they care about what people think. You'd be wrong. 100 million people rioting would not change the plan.

There are a few possible outcomes;

A) They are successful. America will become re-industrialized. People will work in factories and make products to sell globally.

B) They fail. America will descend into violent chaos, will be quickly attacked, and most likely states will leave as DC scorches the earth to save itself. Make no mistake, DC is not your friend. Like all governments, self preservation tops all.

C) They are somewhat successful. Some people will live in near Honduras like conditions. Others will live like Arabian royals. Large gates and private security forces will patrol large areas, and won't be funded by the government. Civil unrest will become normal, since welfare won't exist many millions of people will live in shacks and what not.


B or C are most likely at this point but no one can say they are surprised. He has said all of this since day one..
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:47 PM
 
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What's happening is called Fascism. It's exactly what happened with the rise of the Nazi party, and you all are just cheering it on.
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:50 PM
 
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Option B) Trump won and that's all it took for lefties to have meltdowns.

Option C) If Hillary was elected her main concern was enriching herself and her DC friends even if it meant at the expense of the people. That's where we would be in Honduras like conditions.
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:51 PM
 
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What's happening is called Fascism. It's exactly what happened with the rise of the Nazi party, and you all are just cheering it on.
No its not.....Fascism is state controlled production of private companies. Trump isn't forcing Ford to build tanks. Or telling Apple how many phones to make a year. What he is trying to do is keep the revenues in the US. If he can get the 2/3 of revenue that Apple parks in Ireland it would be a huge win.
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:51 PM
 
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What's happening is called Fascism. It's exactly what happened with the rise of the Nazi party, and you all are just cheering it on.
I think I hear them firing up the ovens right now.
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:52 PM
 
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Trump says the state role is to secure employment for it's citizens. The Germans wanted revenge, and they got it, for economic suffering.

Trump is like China. The state has inputs and we need to plug them in. He says the Government is impeding the inputs.
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:55 PM
 
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C) They are somewhat successful. Some people will live in near Honduras like conditions. Others will live like Arabian royals. Large gates and private security forces will patrol large areas, and won't be funded by the government. Civil unrest will become normal, since welfare won't exist many millions of people will live in shacks and what not.

That's my guess. Trump and his chosen ilk will live like royalty, as they already are, only moreso.

The rest of us (Conservatives, Liberals, and everyone else) will be divided against each other. Divide and conquer, remember? We will be doing the work of the Royalty because we will be at each other's throats, fighting over crumbs. And they will be laughing at all of us ordinary little people.
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:57 PM
 
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No its not.....Fascism is state controlled production of private companies. Trump isn't forcing Ford to build tanks. Or telling Apple how many phones to make a year. What he is trying to do is keep the revenues in the US. If he can get the 2/3 of revenue that Apple parks in Ireland it would be a huge win.
Thank you. These idiots have no problem when Obama used the epa to shut down coal plants and what not.
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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No its not.....Fascism is state controlled production of private companies. Trump isn't forcing Ford to build tanks. Or telling Apple how many phones to make a year. What he is trying to do is keep the revenues in the US. If he can get the 2/3 of revenue that Apple parks in Ireland it would be a huge win.
No, that's not fascism. Look up the break down of Fascism. This administration is a textbook example. Attacking the media/moving to state run media, obsessing over national security at the expense of civil rights, constant use of patriotic slogans and mantras ("MAGA" for example), disdain for human rights, unifying against a common enemy, military supremacy, rampant sexism, religion and government intertwined, labor unions suppressed, obsession with law and order, fraudulent elections.

This administration fits every characteristic of a fascist regime according to experts on fascist governments like Nazi Germany.

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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Option B) Trump won and that's all it took for lefties to have meltdowns.

Option C) If Hillary was elected her main concern was enriching herself and her DC friends even if it meant at the expense of the people. That's where we would be in Honduras like conditions.
Yes, Hill would make sure the wheels had grease. But she wouldn't dare rock the boat.

Trump is taking the boat to the Drake Passage and we'll either pass and go on to glory, or....
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