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Old 02-01-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: My House
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She will make an excellent Secretary of Education. Pence's vote will break the 50-50 tie, so she'll probably go in.

My own view is that the Department of Education should give no educational guidance; they should allocate funds and so forth. So requiring the Secretary to have experience in the educational system is pointless.

Her plan will make good schools available to students who live in poor neighborhoods. That's a good idea, and one that is not now implemented. Today, we take bad schools and try to make them good schools by spending money.
But... seriously, she knows nothing about education. Nothing about teaching. Nothing about pedagogy.

I taught years ago before I went back to school and changed careers. I'm more qualified for this job than her and I don't even want it.

Surely, there's another Trump supporter out there that he could select that has some inkling of what they'd be doing.

You cannot allocate funds without having SOME clue what you're allocating them FOR.
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Old 02-01-2017, 02:56 PM
 
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When two words are combined, it's like a chemical reaction in some liberal minds.

I'll carefully space them out to avoid heads exploding.

School

Wait
Wait
Wait for it


CHOICE

The "choice" is the catalyst.
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Old 02-01-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: FL
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Good. I dislike her. She is not qualified. I have no idea what Trump was thinking when he picked her. Bad move.
Exactly!
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Old 02-01-2017, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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might want to actually read up on her. she doesnt want to eliminate public schools, but rather open up the education system to competition instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_DeVos
Have you lived in a place where the schools were opened up to competition with a plan like hers? I have, and all evidence shows that even after 20 years of vouchers and charters, the district is no better than it was before. A few people have, however, gotten rich off of some fly-by-night charter schools, so I guess there is that. I'm all for school reform in areas where public education isn't working, but let's not try an approach that has been tried and failed. And let's leave the places where public education IS working alone.

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Old 02-01-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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But... seriously, she knows nothing about education. Nothing about teaching. Nothing about pedagogy.

I taught years ago before I went back to school and changed careers. I'm more qualified for this job than her and I don't even want it.

Surely, there's another Trump supporter out there that he could select that has some inkling of what they'd be doing.

You cannot allocate funds without having SOME clue what you're allocating them FOR.
She has her own self-serving reptilian agenda....

Betsy Devos
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Old 02-01-2017, 03:02 PM
 
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Have you lived in a place where the schools were opened up to competition with a plan like here? I have, and all evidence shows that even after 20 years of vouchers and charters, the district is no better than it was before. A few people have, however, gotten rich off of some fly-by-night charter schools, so I guess there is that. I'm all for school reform in areas where public education isn't working, but let's not try an approach that has been tried and failed. And let's leave the places where public education IS working alone.
Do you believe that all public schools are the exact same and no one is better than another?
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Old 02-01-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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When two words are combined, it's like a chemical reaction in some liberal minds.

I'll carefully space them out to avoid heads exploding.

School

Wait
Wait
Wait for it


CHOICE

The "choice" is the catalyst.
NOBODY is saying parents should not have a choice where they send their kids to school. What people are saying is that we should not have a complete moron heading the Department of Education who thinks schools should "carry out God's work", and who has zero clue about students with disabilities.
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Old 02-01-2017, 03:05 PM
 
Location: FL
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She will make an excellent Secretary of Education. Pence's vote will break the 50-50 tie, so she'll probably go in.

My own view is that the Department of Education should give no educational guidance; they should allocate funds and so forth. So requiring the Secretary to have experience in the educational system is pointless.

Her plan will make good schools available to students who live in poor neighborhoods. That's a good idea, and one that is not now implemented. Today, we take bad schools and try to make them good schools by spending money.
Did you listen to her?
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Old 02-01-2017, 03:05 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Do you believe that all public schools are the exact same and no one is better than another?
If you fund public schools like in the NYC suburbs ... they work. If you fund them like they do in Sam Brownback's Tea Party Kansas ... then they don't work. It's real simple.

This is about making billionaires even richer. Parents here in NY already have all the choices they need: public schools, homeschool, private school, religious schools ... and our public schools beat them all hands down any day of the week.
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Old 02-01-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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NOBODY is saying parents should not have a choice where they send their kids to school. What people are saying is that we should not have a complete moron heading the Department of Education who thinks schools should "carry out God's work", and who has zero clue about students with disabilities.
I know very little about her and feel the Dept Of Ed should be eliminated; however, the fact that she is pro-voucher is just about enough for me to like her.
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