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Old 02-02-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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well that escalated quickly ....


we warned you alt rights, you moderate GOPs , you single issue voters.

We warned you Bernie or busters, Green or nothing and gary fans.


We made the mistake of thinking you guys smart enough to avoid this orange faced fool. Turns out you guys put your egos ahead of the nation. now we all reap what you sowed. A monkey with a gun.



That is what Trump is , monkey with a gun. No reason, No logic just ignorance and ego throwing around threats like a child.
Dont be ridiculous. The media gave Trump billions of free ads. Just for the ratings. Who deregulated the media as part of the DLC "third way" agenda? It was Clinton. As a result, entrenched corporate media monopolies with a tiny number of ultra rich owners decide what people should think and feel. This is oligarchy and it was the Clinton agenda as part of the deal with their rich donors. And the DNC e-mails show that the DNC were pushing their friends in the media to elevate Trump instead of the more moderate GOP candidates.

Fact is that the DLC "third way" agenda is a big reason we have Trump today. When you "talk left and walk right", running into the arms of Wall Street and the oligarchy, eventually the income and wealth inequality gets so bad that the ground is fertilized for someone like Trump to "clean things up".

 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:28 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Japanese cars are reliable and Toyota, Honda, and Nissan have plants in the US.

The vehicles made in Mexico are junk the Ford F-150 truck is still made in the US.

Uh, the very same thing was said for many years about vehicles made in Japan, anyone thinking good products can't be made in Mexico or anywhere else for that matter is in for a rude (and no doubt expensive) awakening.
 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:29 AM
 
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Exactly my point. There is much bigger opportunity in India in the future than there is here.
No, it does not work that way.

Area "A" has more Rolls Royces than area "B", but that does mean area "B" has more potential buyers, thus Rolls Royce should concentrate in that area. There are a lot of economic variables that come to play, and in this case, area "B" does not have the income to purchase Rolls Royces, so the company does not direct efforts there. About every company does this, this is why Trader Joe's for example is only found in certain areas.
 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Uh, the very same thing was said for many years about vehicles made in Japan, anyone thinking good products can't be made in Mexico or anywhere else for that matter is in for a rude (and no doubt expensive) awakening.
They can come to the US to make their cars. Border tax is not unreasonable.
 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:38 AM
 
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Default Mexico likely feel it has waited long enough for Americans to give it respect.

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They have less money than us though. The U.S. is the most important market. That's what Trumps point is the U.S. doesn't take advantage of it's own power it lets other countries take advantage of us, and use us. Trump views dealing with other countries as a business deal. In a business deal you don't make the deal unless you are getting just as much out of it, or more, then the entity you are dealing with. That's exactly what China does.
Truth is, AMERICAN UNIVERSITY TRAINED GREED CHASING DEGREE RIDERS, is what did American's industrial decline its greatest damages.

It was mixed with a Long History of Bias, both of gender and race, that was a driving force that led to the teaching to get rid of any and every pathway that women and minorities may utilize to move up to middle class living standards. What people don't grasp is "white males dominated system" has feared and fought against the rise and the equalibrium of women and minorities for centuries, and by any and every means created blocks, impediments and that includes the demise of American Industry as an aim to curtail the upward mobility of women and minorities. The systems accepted the collateral damage of the poor whites having their pathways cut off as well, because they were never to be considered any more than 'service help" in the form of repairmen of various types. in being such, they would remain being in direct comparison to what is an indentured servant, as they were allowed to establish and gain "credit" which appeased them with the delusions they were doing better than they actually were. Then when the job played out, repossessions and foreclosures demonstrated to them, just how and where their place is. They refused to grasp and understand, and thought themselves to be more because of their skin color, and what came next, again tried to show them, they were but 'collateral damage", and to make this message stick, the community colleges had their funding cut, the state colleges had their funding cut even more, and the cost of private for profit colleges had their prices to move upwards far beyond even being a considered idea.
Tech and vocations schools were then devalued, the AA degree was nearly abolished except as a non valued point in the system, a Bachelors degree became the same standard of which a high schools diploma once carried, and the Master Degree became to replace the AA and BA and BS degrees. All made to be as unattainable as possible from the ranks of the dire poor.

What happen was no fluke, the Chinese did not send any boats here and dismantle and cart off not one company from American soil. American people, imbecilic kids, packaged up any and all components that could be, and sent them to China, moved and set up whole systems to transfer production and distribution on to the Mainland Chinese lands. Unaware that a decade later, the Chinese would send them packing and manage it all themselves. Now, they are upset because China won't submit and give it back. They are upset because China won't listen to their grumblings and they can't do anything about, so the contempt that is directed at China, should be properly directed as the Ivy League Institutions who taught the ignorance unto its students for the past 40+ yrs. But that will not happen, because the masses of dire poor have been trained to worships the suit and tie and bow down as if to a feeding trawl and eat up anything that is poured into by the degree riders and the wealthy.

So, the utterance of saying
 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:38 AM
 
Location: West Texas
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+1. Trump is on the verge of setting off an economic disaster in the U.S. -- and that shouldn't be a surprise, look how many of his businesses ended in failure. Trump Univ., Trump Airlines, Trump Steaks, Trump casinos in Atlantic City, etc., etc.

The rubes in the Rust Belt who bought Trump's snake oil are going to be so disappointed when those promised new factory jobs never show up...
Yes, but the vast majority of his businesses were successful to the tune of billions of dollars and tens of thousands of jobs, so your post is rather pointless.

Talk about rubes.
 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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what part of the fact that these are most likely built for non-US markets do you not get? There is trade that doesn't involve the US..some Trumpsters need to understand that...
what non-us market do you think they would be going to (being assembled in the western hemisphere)?

lets look at the markets
usa pop 321 million,... 797 vehicles per 1000 people

mexico pop 128 million....275 vehicles per 1000 people

panama pop 3.9 million.....132 vehicles per 1000 people

Hondo pop 8.1 million .......95 vehicles per 1000 people

Ecuador pop 16.3 million ......109 vehicles per 1000 people

belize pop 366,000..........174 vehicles per 1000 people

Brazil pop 209 million........249 vehicles per 1000 people

chile pop 18 million......230 vehicles per 1000 people

costa rica pop 4.8 million......287 vehicles per 1000 people

el Salvador pop 6.1 million......94 vehicles per 1000 people

Guatemala pop 16.6 million......69 vehicles per 1000 people

Guyana pop 700,000.........95 vehicles per 1000 people

peru pop 31 million.......73 vehicles per 1000 people

Argentina pop 43.8 million.......314 vehicles per 1000 people

Venezuela pop 31.5 million.......147 vehicles per 1000 people


all of them rather poor countries

so what market in the western hemisphere would they be selling to OTHER than the USA??
 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:41 AM
 
Location: West Texas
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So you agree that it's a good thing for Mexico to focus on bringing Manufacturing jobs to Mexico.

Then why are you against the Trump administration doing exactly the same thing for the USA?

burnt

/thread fail
Agreed, this post should have ended this thread.
 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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They can come to the US to make their cars. Border tax is not unreasonable.
We'll see what consumers say if they have to start paying 35% + more for some products, I don't hthink they're gonna like it.
 
Old 02-02-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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Uh, the very same thing was said for many years about vehicles made in Japan, anyone thinking good products can't be made in Mexico or anywhere else for that matter is in for a rude (and no doubt expensive) awakening.
agreed- My Honda was assembled in Mexico, over 6 years ago!- no problem....I've yet to hear one cogent argument form Trumpsters about how driving Mexico and China together is a good thing...just a bunch of 'Murica dribble...
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