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Old 02-03-2017, 10:46 AM
 
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Good interview and story discussing how Trump's appointment to FCC(Pai) has already hurt consumers.


The head of the FCC was Tom Wheeler. He was a black hat lobbyist that found redemption and became a knight in shining armor.
What really changed Tom's mind is hard to know. Did 1 million request to protect consumers do it? Did he just not want to be "that guy"? Who knows. But bless Tom, he stood up protected consumers.



Trump has replaced Tom Wheeler with Ajit Pai. Ajit is a Cable industry shill, he is openly in their pocket and has repeatedly stated he thinks Net Neutrality stinks. He will kill it as he has promised to many times.

Ajit was directed to kill consumer owned and controlled cable boxes. Ajit, hated the whole plan and signed it's death warrant with glee..... Tom Wheeler worked very hard to get this deal for consumers, it was not perfect but it would have shifted power to consumers allowing them to choose to buy their own boxes, and avoid cable rental fees which mount up fast...

TRUMP just SCREWED the average American family that has any type of "cable"... Trump put corporations, and wall street profit ahead of his voters.





TRUMP LIED TO YOU, he is not draining anything or championing the rural working family. He just installed a guy who will ensure we pay HIGH internet rates , HIGH cable rates for years to come.




https://backchannel.com/obamas-fcc-h...fc5#.1qylm7x8a

 
Old 02-03-2017, 10:51 AM
 
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Good interview and story discussing how Trump's appointment to FCC(Pai) has already hurt consumers.


The head of the FCC was Tom Wheeler. He was a black hat lobbyist that found redemption and became a knight in shining armor.
What really changed Tom's mind is hard to know. Did 1 million request to protect consumers do it? Did he just not want to be "that guy"? Who knows. But bless Tom, he stood up protected consumers.



Trump has replaced Tom Wheeler with Ajit Pai. Ajit is a Cable industry shill, he is openly in their pocket and has repeatedly stated he thinks Net Neutrality stinks. He will kill it as he has promised to many times.

Ajit was directed to kill consumer owned and controlled cable boxes. Ajit, hated the whole plan and signed it's death warrant with glee..... Tom Wheeler worked very hard to get this deal for consumers, it was not perfect but it would have shifted power to consumers allowing them to choose to buy their own boxes, and avoid cable rental fees which mount up fast...

TRUMP just SCREWED the average American family that has any type of "cable"... Trump put corporations, and wall street profit ahead of his voters.





TRUMP LIED TO YOU, he is not draining anything or championing the rural working family. He just installed a guy who will ensure we pay HIGH internet rates , HIGH cable rates for years to come.




https://backchannel.com/obamas-fcc-h...fc5#.1qylm7x8a
Internet, and cable rates are already high, what are you talking about.

Trump hasn't said much about net neutrality, we don't know where he stands.
 
Old 02-03-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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Internet, and cable rates are already high, what are you talking about.

Trump hasn't said much about net neutrality, we don't know where he stands.
Yes, YES we do.


YOU JUST LOST hundreds of dollars a year. no consumer cablebox rule = status quo. TRUMP appointed Pai an avowed ANTI net neutrality member of the FCC.


You me , your mom just lost a deal where you would have been able to go to the store/amazon order a cable box and avoid paying rental fees to Comcast, direct tv, frontier etc....

about 200 USD a year for the average American family.


Pai (appointed by trump) has been called to end net neutrality and voted against it.


Pai just sent the letter killing consumer controlled and owned cable boxes.....



So yeah we know exactly where trump stands.


exactly.
 
Old 02-03-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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People still pay for cable?
 
Old 02-03-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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People still pay for cable?
yep, tens of millions of families and particularly rural families do not have access to true high speed internet. they rent satellite , cable etc.


Trump replaced Tom with Ajit, precisely because they are polar opposites. And it means that you me and everyone loses while ajit , the corporate shill lines the pockets of Comcast ...



Tell me again how Trump loves you.
 
Old 02-03-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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Yes, YES we do.


YOU JUST LOST hundreds of dollars a year. no consumer cablebox rule = status quo. TRUMP appointed Pai an avowed ANTI net neutrality member of the FCC.


You me , your mom just lost a deal where you would have been able to go to the store/amazon order a cable box and avoid paying rental fees to Comcast, direct tv, frontier etc....

about 200 USD a year for the average American family.


Pai (appointed by trump) has been called to end net neutrality and voted against it.


Pai just sent the letter killing consumer controlled and owned cable boxes.....



So yeah we know exactly where trump stands.


exactly.

Who pays hundreds of dollars a year for a cable box?
 
Old 02-03-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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Who pays hundreds of dollars a year for a cable box?
https://arstechnica.com/business/201...ld-232-a-year/


Cable-Box Rental Fees - Consumer Reports


consumers are paying about $230 a year on average, that mean that some pay less but some pay more.



This is only one part of what is happening. Pai is now running the FCC , Trump appointed him. Pai does not support net neutrality, he killed the consumer cable box plan and he believes in limited regulation.



A year or two ago TOM WHEELER blocked cell carrier consolidation. That led to T mobile lower prices and forcing other to do so.

T Mobile will now be gobbled up by the big players (with Pai at the helm of the FCC there is nobody to stop them), allowing V and ATT to again increase prices and slow investment.


DID YOU hear that now?


cable boxes, net neutrality , cell carrier competition.

TRUMP just did you, the fist step is admitting there is a problem.
 
Old 02-03-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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Yes, YES we do.


YOU JUST LOST hundreds of dollars a year. no consumer cablebox rule = status quo. TRUMP appointed Pai an avowed ANTI net neutrality member of the FCC.


You me , your mom just lost a deal where you would have been able to go to the store/amazon order a cable box and avoid paying rental fees to Comcast, direct tv, frontier etc....

about 200 USD a year for the average American family.


Pai (appointed by trump) has been called to end net neutrality and voted against it.


Pai just sent the letter killing consumer controlled and owned cable boxes.....



So yeah we know exactly where trump stands.


exactly.

Do you even know what net neutrality is?
 
Old 02-03-2017, 11:43 AM
 
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look guys we got screwed. A whole bunch of us fell for the lies TRUMP spread.


From the moment he was elected he began to abandon everything he promised the average working family.


TRump has increased costs for home loans.

Trump is removing fiduciary rules.

Trump is reversing consumer protection ref FCC. cell phones, cable and internet.


THIS IS FACT, not opinion, not my view, simply facts.



Do they conflict with what you were promised by TRump , well you decide .
 
Old 02-03-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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Do you even know what net neutrality is?
fact is fact, I could think it is a donkey it does not change that PAI (appointed by Trump) has an openly stated and frequently repeated desire to roll back net neutrality.

If you would like to open a debate as to the merits of neutrality, or as to what it is or is not, feel free, but my point stands 100%


but I get it, you can clearly see trump is screwing over the people who voted for him so you want to build a strawman ...
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