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Old 02-03-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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You mean Iran's money we'd held since 1979 and then gave back to them when they agreed to stop developing nukes?

That money?

It's Iran's, not ours. That should clear up your confusion on the matter.

Carry on.

meh.


so by that reasoning, some redneck goes to jail for armed robbery, when he gets out you would give him back the gun he used to rob folk?


snort
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:14 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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And maybe the whiners should learn the fact that Obama didn't give Iran anything, he released Iran's own assets that had been frozen.
He flew it to them on pallets.

US sent plane with $400 million in cash to Iran - CNNPolitics.com
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:15 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Like someone said yesterday that I agree with it might be a quick tomahawk missile strike to take out their missile launch sites and to show them how good our missiles are.
And how would attacking a sovereign nation that'd used its own airspace while impacting no other country be anything but an act of terrorism?
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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meh.


so by that reasoning, some redneck goes to jail for armed robbery, when he gets out you would give him back the gun he used to rob folk?
Nope. That's just your "reasoning."

Totally off the wall and doesn't apply here. Iran didn't steal that money. It was paid to the US for aircraft that we sold but never built for Iran. We'd been holding those funds since 1979.

Try to keep up.

This isn't news.

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Where'd that weird "reasoning" of yours come from, anyway?

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Old 02-03-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Just give the green light to Israel.
We've been through this a hundred times. Israel is a sovereign State and doesn't need US permission to do anything.

If Israel had the capability to attack Iran -- they don't --- but if they did, they would have already done so.

And, no, F-35s don't change the equation.
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Old 02-03-2017, 02:24 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I really don't want us to get into another middle east conflict. Just give the green light to Israel.

Treasury Department announcing sanctions against Iran Friday morning - CNNPolitics.com

When we invaded Iraq, I was of the opinion it was Iran we should have focused on. But not with an invasion force. We could have done things far easier. Just park a couple Naval battle groups in the strait and let them come to us. Slap them around a bit, leave a chunk of their military resources to Davey Jones or the tender mercies of Tomahawks, no need to commit ground forces at all.


Iraq went down because W thought he would have public support for doing what we all thought Dad should have done. Finish Saddam while we had a good reason, and support from ME countries. As it turns out, just leaving him alone after his spanking would have been a better option. So it would have been with Khadaffi. They'd both learned their lessons about messing with the US, and both kept Islamic extremists in line without our assistance.


Irans wost nightmare is the US taking off the gloves with them. Oh sure. They talk tough, but they know if we decide to get really tough, it won't go well for them. No inane ROE, just a general beat down. The mullahs don't want that. We don't either, really. But it may be unavoidable.
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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And maybe the whiners should learn the fact that Obama didn't give Iran anything, he released Iran's own assets that had been frozen.
Incorrect.
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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And how would attacking a sovereign nation that'd used its own airspace while impacting no other country be anything but an act of terrorism?
You seem to be making a lot of excuses for the dictators who run Iran. And the only reason for it seems to be that Obama made a stupid deal with them that failed.
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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I really don't want us to get into another middle east conflict. Just give the green light to Israel.

Treasury Department announcing sanctions against Iran Friday morning - CNNPolitics.com
Why not? Let's just get this nuclear annihilation over with already. The suspense is killing me.
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:26 PM
 
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Do you mean Israelis? Cuz most of the Jews I know don't even own guns.
And are not on leashes, literally or figuratively.
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