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Old 02-03-2017, 11:47 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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For liberals who generally support the rights of individuals to partake in vices as long as they aren't hurting anyone, marijuana legalization is a huge expansion of individual liberty. For conservatives who want to see the Mexican drug cartels out of business and stop or slow the violence at the border, there is no better way to do that than to legalize marijuana to be grown and sold right here in the U.S., putting the cartels out of business.

However, conservatives for the most part have trouble accepting that. They see legalizing marijuana as something that will further deteriorate our nation's moral fabric, is against God and the Bible, and will lead to more teen use and more hard drug use. The thing is, the statistics have shown the opposite.

Legalizing marijuana puts the drug cartels out of business, reduces access to harder drugs, and makes it more difficult for teens to get than it currently is. Not everything with legalization is positive. More people over 21 years of age partake in legal states than illegal states, but teen use is down in places like Colorado. I would say the net effects of marijuana legalization are far more positive than negative.

Marijuana prohibition is also incompatible with conservative views on small government. Conservatives believe there should be minimal or even no gun laws, but want to lock people up for 10 years for smoking a joint because it's a "gateway drug." How does that make sense?

For all of the differences between the left and the right, why can't both sides at least come together on this issue?
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Old 02-03-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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I accept legalizing marijuana and I think it would be a great thing... I hope Trump will legalize it one day...
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Old 02-03-2017, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Because the tobacco and alcohol industries oppose legalization. Both are big GOP contributors.

It ain't complicated.

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Old 02-03-2017, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Because the tobacco and alcohol industries oppose legalization. Both are big GOP contributors.

It ain't complicated.

Few others as well. Law enforcement is mostly opposed and they lean GOP heavily.

LEOs get a ton of cash and loot for their dept because of the drug forfeiture laws.

And of course Big Pharma who contributes and lobbies heavily to both parties. They are totally opposed because more weed will mean less need for expensive addictive painkillers.
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Old 02-03-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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I think we can agree to it if your sickness is caused by drug abuse, insurance or the government shouldn't cover that.
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Old 02-03-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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A classic case of the GOP being completely full of crap.
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Old 02-03-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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For liberals who generally support the rights of individuals to partake in vices as long as they aren't hurting anyone, marijuana legalization is a huge expansion of individual liberty. For conservatives who want to see the Mexican drug cartels out of business and stop or slow the violence at the border, there is no better way to do that than to legalize marijuana to be grown and sold right here in the U.S., putting the cartels out of business.

However, conservatives for the most part have trouble accepting that. They see legalizing marijuana as something that will further deteriorate our nation's moral fabric, is against God and the Bible, and will lead to more teen use and more hard drug use. The thing is, the statistics have shown the opposite.

Legalizing marijuana puts the drug cartels out of business, reduces access to harder drugs, and makes it more difficult for teens to get than it currently is. Not everything with legalization is positive. More people over 21 years of age partake in legal states than illegal states, but teen use is down in places like Colorado. I would say the net effects of marijuana legalization are far more positive than negative.

Marijuana prohibition is also incompatible with conservative views on small government. Conservatives believe there should be minimal or even no gun laws, but want to lock people up for 10 years for smoking a joint because it's a "gateway drug." How does that make sense?

For all of the differences between the left and the right, why can't both sides at least come together on this issue?
I don't support full legalization, and it seems Trump admin does not either. As a matter of fact it is likely the Colorado, Washington etc legal pot days are counted.
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Old 02-03-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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They do agree. neither party has decriminalized pot.
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Old 02-03-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I don't support full legalization, and it seems Trump admin does not either. As a matter of fact it is likely the Colorado, Washington etc legal pot days are counted.
Then you better support bringing back prohibition as well since alcohol is a more dangerous drug. Supporting one and not the other is entirely inconsistent logically.
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Old 02-03-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Few others as well. Law enforcement is mostly opposed and they lean GOP heavily.

LEOs get a ton of cash and loot for their dept because of the drug forfeiture laws.

And of course Big Pharma who contributes and lobbies heavily to both parties. They are totally opposed because more weed will mean less need for expensive addictive painkillers.
I always found law enforcement and military voting Republican very peculiar, considering they are government workers and unionized in the case of law enforcement, yet vote for the anti-government party
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