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Old 02-09-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
He risks his health for 18+ years to pay child support.

Here's the thing... if women can choose to abort, men can choose to opt out of any and all legal and financial responsibility for any child they do not want.

Do you agree, or not?

I was married once and my husband had to pay child support......in fact, I am the one who wrote the check every month and made sure his ex got it.....on time.


Neither one of us ever suffered any ill health due to paying that child support, not even a sniffle, imagine that.....
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:14 PM
 
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I was married once and my husband had to pay child support......in fact, I am the one who wrote the check every month and made sure his ex got it.....on time.


Neither one of us ever suffered any ill health due to paying that child support, not even a sniffle, imagine that.....
ah so your circumstance represents every man's...

woman chooses to abort, man can choose to abort 18 years of slavery
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:16 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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How so?
Forced stress. Forced loss of income. Forced reduction in lifestyle. Etc.
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:17 PM
 
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ah so your circumstance represents every man's...

woman chooses to abort, man can choose to abort 18 years of slavery
Exactly.
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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oh come on...
I'm sorry, I can't think of how paying child support causes someone health issues. Care to elaborate?
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:20 PM
 
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I'm sorry, I can't think of how paying child support causes someone health issues. Care to elaborate?
lets try this...


imagine paying a significant amount of your wages to something you dont want. that wouldnt affect you at all? stress, lower lifestyle, etc
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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ah so your circumstance represents every man's...

woman chooses to abort, man can choose to abort 18 years of slavery

As a taxpayer, who had absolutely nothing to do with creating that child, can I choose to abort responsibility too?
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:29 PM
 
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Forced stress. Forced loss of income. Forced reduction in lifestyle. Etc.
Making bad decisions (like having unprotected sex and fathering a chilld) and having to pay for those bad decisions isn't being forced to do anything. It's paying the price for ones own bad decisions. Its accountability and personal responsibility. Let's not pretend these men are victims. Unless he has a severe mental disability, men know unprotected sex with a woman can lead to pregnancy. If he chooses not to use protection, that his poor decision.

To play devils advocate, the way things are going, abortion clinics are closing down, the Surpreme Court is probably going to swing right under Trump. What happens if abortion goes away as an option for women? Then by your argument men should lose any choice they get too. It will also mean all those men who impregnated women who would have opted for abortion will now also be on the hook financially.
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:31 PM
 
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Making bad decisions (like having unprotected sex and fathering a chilld) and having to pay for those bad decisions isn't being forced to do anything. It's paying the price for ones own bad decisions. Its accountability and personal responsibility. Let's not pretend these men are victims. Unless he has a severe mental disability, men know unprotected sex with a woman can lead to pregnancy. If he chooses not to use protection, that his poor decision.

To play devils advocate, the way things are going, abortion clinics are closing down, the Surpreme Court is probably going to swing right under Trump. What happens if abortion goes away as an option for women? Then by your argument men should lose any choice they get too. It will also mean all those men who impregnated women who would have opted for abortion will now also be on the hook financially.
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having sex is both sides fault... not just the mans

if women lose the option to abort (which i hope happens) then i have no problem with men losing the option to stop paying.

but men dont have any option now while women do currently. thats not right.
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:32 PM
 
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Making bad decisions (like having unprotected sex and fathering a chilld) and having to pay for those bad decisions isn't being forced to do anything.
Again, if she can choose to abort without his consent, he can choose to opt out of any and all legal and financial responsibility without her consent.

Do you agree, or disagree?
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