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Old 02-06-2017, 07:57 AM
 
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Typical liberal tactics. Putting words in others' mouths. Where did I say terrorist attacks are more important?
Actually you didn`t and I shouldn`t have posted that. I just don`t see a concern for the hundreds thousand or so murdered in this country since 9-11. Dead is dead whether it`s at the hands of fake muslims or Dylan Roof, Adam Lanza, etc.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:05 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Is it sound reasonable to understand that where there has been proven government complicity in terrorist attacks that even today they'd fudge some records to allow agents to enter your country?

The only brain in question here is one that would refuse to answer proffered factual based questions and continue the "liberal this, liberal that" childish inanities in response.

Give that silly 'typical of a four year old's' behaviour a rest if your expect to be taken seriously.
Aw, did I touch on a nerve when I say "liberal?"

I guess even liberals know the word has negative connotations.

As for "proven government complicity" I'd like to see that proof, and no, speculation and conspiracies don't count.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:06 AM
 
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Because that was 16 years ago. You know, a thing call progress? Even the U.S. has bulked up our ID system since then (of course, if the liberals had it their way, our ID system would still be a joke).
Wait, what? Liberals are the ones who oppose a national ID? The conservatives oppose more ID laws at every turn. Funny how you can turn such a thing on it's head.

You can't just spout on nonsense in your posts, use links to back up your claims. Just because you say something doesn't make it true.

Dems spark alarm with call for national ID card | TheHill

National ID requirements postponed under criticism - latimes

Remember the Real ID, conservatives have done everything they can to delay it, postpone it, get it canceled in the last decade. It's now the law of the land and some conservative states still aren't in compliance.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:10 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Actually you didn`t and I shouldn`t have posted that. I just don`t see a concern for the hundreds thousand or so murdered in this country since 9-11. Dead is dead whether it`s at the hands of fake muslims or Dylan Roof, Adam Lanza, etc.
Sure there is concern. Trump is actually at the forefront of that concern when he talks about the violence in the inner cities like Chicago. Just because we are concern and talking about terrorism doesn't mean we are not concern about the violence domestically.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:27 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Wait, what? Liberals are the ones who oppose a national ID? The conservatives oppose more ID laws at every turn. Funny how you can turn such a thing on it's head.

You can't just spout on nonsense in your posts, use links to back up your claims. Just because you say something doesn't make it true.

Dems spark alarm with call for national ID card | TheHill

National ID requirements postponed under criticism - latimes

Remember the Real ID, conservatives have done everything they can to delay it, postpone it, get it canceled in the last decade. It's now the law of the land and some conservative states still aren't in compliance.
Isn't funny how in your own link, it clearly said that many groups opposed it, including the very liberal ACLU:

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American Civil Liberties Union, a civil liberties defender often aligned with the Democratic Party, wasted no time in blasting the plan.
So stop perpetrating your lies about the conservatives opposing it. Many different sides opposed it for various reasons.

And ironically, these old articles you dig up illustrates perfectly how the Democrats/liberals are hypocrites because their agendas are always changing, often flipping 180, depending on the issue they're trying to push at the time.

Fast forward a few years and now the liberals are all for handing out ID's like candy for everyone, even illegals:


New York City may erase ID card data to protect illegal immigrants | Fox News
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Old 02-06-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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Isn't funny how in your own link, it clearly said that many groups opposed it, including the very liberal ACLU:



So stop perpetrating your lies about the conservatives opposing it. Many different sides opposed it for various reasons.

And ironically, these old articles you dig up illustrates perfectly how the Democrats/liberals are hypocrites because their agendas are always changing, often flipping 180, depending on the issue they're trying to push at the time.

Fast forward a few years and now the liberals are all for handing out ID's like candy for everyone, even illegals:


New York City may erase ID card data to protect illegal immigrants | Fox News
The Democratic Party supported it, the Republican Party did not. The ACLU is a private organization and they can do whatever they want. Neither liberals nor conservatives are monolithic groups, and there will always be various factions and opposition. Most liberals support stronger ID laws and most conservatives do not.

EDIT: I want to add that the ACLU opposes the real ID for the same reason conservatives oppose it, for privacy concerns.

My personal views on a national ID have changed. I previously opposed it, but the Democrats National ID would have been a good thing in hindsight. Having biometric data of ever American would be great and it's absolutely necessary in the modern age.

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Old 02-06-2017, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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Canada is scary. Did you know that their entire government is controlled by SOCIALISTS?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xGkgpGybVck
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Old 02-06-2017, 09:56 AM
 
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Canada is scary. Did you know that their entire government is controlled by SOCIALISTS?
Whats your definition of socialist?
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:06 AM
 
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I was very troubled by the news that Prime Minister Trudeau is welcoming Islamic refugees to Canada, including from the 7 countries where no true vetting can take place. Assuming the Mexican border wall is built and the travel ban directly to the US is upheld in the courts, how concerned is everyone regarding Canada?

A terrorist can enter Canada as a refugee, and then be smuggled across the border which is far less secure than the Mexican border.
Your headline implies there's just the one weak link. That seems - unlikely.
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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Whats your definition of socialist?
Just watch the video I posted above. It tells you everything you need to know.
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