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Old 02-07-2017, 02:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24 View Post
How is this different from subsidized health care?
People scream that they shouldn't have to help pay for health insurance for poor people but see no issue paying for private schools for those same people.

Help me to understand why.
Name a person who says poor people should be denied healthcare.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Northern NJ
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It sounds like you don't want lower income families who could only choose private schools with the assistance of a voucher access to your school.
Is it too much to ask to expect people not to bring kids into the world until they are financially able to educate them? On their own steam? With their own money?
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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I know right?

I mean our schools are the best in the world, and America has been churning out STEM students left and right for decades now.

This DeVos and her new-fangled ideas are RIDICULOUS.

Why anyone would mess with such a successful system is beyond me.
Gad...I hope your post was done with tongue in cheek: US ranked 33rd in math, reading and science.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/m...201_larger.jpg

Now cost: The US spends $7743 per student a year compared to Japan's $3756. Just who is getting a bang for their buck, the US or a country who produces some of the smart of the world's smart.

https://rossieronline.usc.edu/u-s-ed...d-infographic/
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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I could send my kid to any private school in my area, but I chose a progressive school with selective admissions. They pride themselves on racial, cultural and socioeconomic diversity. They offer a lot financial aid to keep enrollment balanced. They also have a VERY long waiting list. Vouchers won't change the demographics of my school at all, but they will save me a lot of money, while making the local public schools worse.

Right now, I'm subsidizing the schools, and not using them. When they start handing me about years, that money is coming out of the public schools.
So, you send your kid to a school that practices discrimination?
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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Gad...I hope your post was done with tongue in cheek: US ranked 33rd in math, reading and science.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/m...201_larger.jpg

Now cost: The US spends $7743 per student a year compared to Japan's $3756. Just who is getting a bang for their buck, the US or a country who produces some of the smart of the world's smart.

https://rossieronline.usc.edu/u-s-ed...d-infographic/
Why don't you find some income weighted numbers. The US pins to compare unfavorably to other developed nations because we have one of the highest poverty rates of any developed nation.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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Is it too much to ask to expect people not to bring kids into the world until they are financially able to educate them? On their own steam? With their own money?
I support some socialism such as in education.

Society should ensure children have access to things like education.

It doesn't have to be 100% or 0% socialism.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Then put your "money" where your mouth is, and move to the worst inner city neighborhood, and send your kids to those schools.
Come on, man up.
Agree...according to USATODAY

WASHINGTON Students in a handful of big-city school districts have a less than 50-50 chance of graduating from high school with their peers, and a few cities graduate far fewer than half each spring, according to research released.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:35 PM
 
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Gad...I hope your post was done with tongue in cheek: US ranked 33rd in math, reading and science.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/m...201_larger.jpg

Now cost: The US spends $7743 per student a year compared to Japan's $3756. Just who is getting a bang for their buck, the US or a country who produces some of the smart of the world's smart.

https://rossieronline.usc.edu/u-s-ed...d-infographic/
If we had Japan's kids (and parents), we could probably spend less...

The schools in the US are just fine, it is some of the kids (backed by the parents) that drag them down in the statistics ratings.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Why don't you find some income weighted numbers. The US pins to compare unfavorably to other developed nations because we have one of the highest poverty rates of any developed nation.
Well ya, we import it or let it walk across. No revelation there.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Ummmmm, that is what folk always say when the person in question is unqualified. But the whole point of the rigorous selection process is to weed these people out and not to protect them out of partisan politics....

Yet the right voted for her even though they know she is the wrong choice...

So we must conclude the 200 million in donations to GOP members is the price of a secretarial seat in Trumps Whitehouse ...... or maybe she overpaid just to be sure
After so many failures by democrats to bring up the educational standards in our public school I see her as being a refreshing change.
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