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Old 02-08-2017, 03:23 PM
 
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You keep mentioning that, but I know who Rachel Dolezal is, and the difference is that there is proof that she is not part black.
And Fauxahontas has NO proof (other than her and you) that says she has ONE drop of Indian blood...

 
Old 02-08-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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NO, she did much MORE then that.

Read the posts above yours and get in formed instated of making false statements.
No, that's what she did. Senator Warren was entitled to take the floor and to make her argument. To do so, she read into the record some of Senator Kennedy's commentary regarding Senator Sessions, and she was warned that those comments violated an archaic rule that hasn't been used for years. She then started to read a letter written by an icon of the Civil Rights movement about Senator Sessions, a letter that was eloquent and well-written, a letter that certainly was decorous and polite, a letter that presented a perspective of a civil rights activist on how Sessions' actions affected civil rights activists and black people. At that point, she was interrupted by McConnell, who instructed her she was in violation of Rule XIX and should yield the floor. She appealed, a vote was taken, and the vote reflected the partisan divide in the Senate which is currently controlled by Republicans and she lost that vote. She was instructed that she was not allowed to speak any further on the Senate floor regarding Sessions' confirmation. She went outside, and finished reading the letter. FOUR more Democrat Senators proceeded to read from Mrs King's letter. None of them were reprimanded. None of them were interrupted and told they were in violation of Rule XIX.

These are the facts.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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And Fauxahontas has NO proof (other than her and you) that says she has ONE drop of Indian blood...
That is different than Dolezal whose parents, who were both white, had her birth certificate. If I saw something like that with Warren, concrete proof that she doesn't have any Native blood, then I would concede.

You do realize she is from Oklahoma, right? Which was one large Reservation prior to becoming a state
 
Old 02-08-2017, 03:26 PM
 
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Partisan to the end I see.

"She's black so she knows what Sessions did."

That has to be the lamest excuse I've ever read.

You are no different at all from the birthers. You refuse to look at the evidence because the last thing you'd do is contradict this falsehood put forward by King and Warren.

This PROVES facts don't matter to you.

It's so funny how so many of you were going on about the Marion Three prosecution about a dozen pages back. I begin presenting some facts to debate and MOST going running for the hills when they realize they've been duped while you sit her and say King's opinions trump all evidence.

So, basically you have zero credibility.
She's black, so she understands how Sessions' actions affected black people.

If you can't accurately quote someone whose post you are replying to, then you have comprehension issues that can't be dealt with on a forum like this.

The facts matter to me. And as I stated before, it would have been appropriate for the Senate to have brought those facts out, and to have debated Sessions' qualifications. Instead, the GOP decided to shut up a Senator.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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And Fauxahontas has NO proof (other than her and you) that says she has ONE drop of Indian blood...
You realize that the woman in this picture is half black?

https://www.biography.com/.image/c_f...600x487jpg.jpg
 
Old 02-08-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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You gotta laugh at somebody finally told her to Shut the H Up.

She's probably never heard that in her life.
OH, she's heard it. And she recognizes that when someone can't proffer an argument, then they resort to trying to shut her up. That letter, by the way, has been fully entered into the Senate's records. And McConnell can say he stopped Senator Warren from reading the letter, but let four of her colleagues read the letter into the record. Hmmm......
 
Old 02-08-2017, 04:08 PM
 
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She's black, so she understands how Sessions' actions affected black people.

If you can't accurately quote someone whose post you are replying to, then you have comprehension issues that can't be dealt with on a forum like this.

The facts matter to me. And as I stated before, it would have been appropriate for the Senate to have brought those facts out, and to have debated Sessions' qualifications. Instead, the GOP decided to shut up a Senator.
What she said in her letter is a LIE.

Which is why you refuse to discuss the facts about it.

It doesn't matter if she is purple, Sessions performed his duty as he should have.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 04:10 PM
 
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Warren barred from speaking on Senate floor for rest of Sessions debate | Fox News

McConnell used an arcane Senate rule to muzzle Elizabeth Warren. What is this, Russia? Republicans should be ashamed.
I'm somewhat sympathetic, as this context essentially requires a candid discussion of Sessions's qualifications. At the same time, it's refreshing to see the Left get a taste of its own no-holds-barred style of politics.

Of course, there is a good reason for the rule:
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On May 22, 1856, the "world's greatest deliberative body" became a combat zone. In one of the most dramatic and deeply ominous moments in the Senate's entire history, a member of the House of Representatives entered the Senate chamber and savagely beat a senator into unconsciousness.

The inspiration for this clash came three days earlier when Senator Charles Sumner, a Massachusetts antislavery Republican, addressed the Senate on the explosive issue of whether Kansas should be admitted to the Union as a slave state or a free state. In his "Crime Against Kansas" speech, Sumner identified two Democratic senators as the principal culprits in this crime—Stephen Douglas of Illinois and Andrew Butler of South Carolina. He characterized Douglas to his face as a "noise-some, squat, and nameless animal . . . not a proper model for an American senator." Andrew Butler, who was not present, received more elaborate treatment. Mocking the South Carolina senator's stance as a man of chivalry, the Massachusetts senator charged him with taking "a mistress . . . who, though ugly to others, is always lovely to him; though polluted in the sight of the world, is chaste in his sight—I mean," added Sumner, "the harlot, Slavery."

Representative Preston Brooks was Butler's South Carolina kinsman. If he had believed Sumner to be a gentleman, he might have challenged him to a duel. Instead, he chose a light cane of the type used to discipline unruly dogs. Shortly after the Senate had adjourned for the day, Brooks entered the old chamber, where he found Sumner busily attaching his postal frank to copies of his "Crime Against Kansas" speech.

Moving quickly, Brooks slammed his metal-topped cane onto the unsuspecting Sumner's head. As Brooks struck again and again, Sumner rose and lurched blindly about the chamber, futilely attempting to protect himself. After a very long minute, it ended.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 04:11 PM
 
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No, that's what she did. Senator Warren was entitled to take the floor and to make her argument. To do so, she read into the record some of Senator Kennedy's commentary regarding Senator Sessions, and she was warned that those comments violated an archaic rule that hasn't been used for years. She then started to read a letter written by an icon of the Civil Rights movement about Senator Sessions, a letter that was eloquent and well-written, a letter that certainly was decorous and polite, a letter that presented a perspective of a civil rights activist on how Sessions' actions affected civil rights activists and black people. At that point, she was interrupted by McConnell, who instructed her she was in violation of Rule XIX and should yield the floor. She appealed, a vote was taken, and the vote reflected the partisan divide in the Senate which is currently controlled by Republicans and she lost that vote. She was instructed that she was not allowed to speak any further on the Senate floor regarding Sessions' confirmation. She went outside, and finished reading the letter. FOUR more Democrat Senators proceeded to read from Mrs King's letter. None of them were reprimanded. None of them were interrupted and told they were in violation of Rule XIX.

These are the facts.
The letter contained lies and every reasonable person who takes the time to study the issue knows it.

Birther types ignore facts.
 
Old 02-08-2017, 04:44 PM
 
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This whole thing stinks. McConnell is a crafty old bastard. You might not like him, but he knows what he's doing. He had to know shutting down Warren would have consequences, so why do it? IMO, one of the bloggers at the popular right wing blog Hot Air come close - they claim McConnell is trying to make Warren the face of the Democrat Party now and in 2020. Report: Yes, McConnell was hoping to “elevate” Warren by shutting down her Senate floor speech last night « Hot Air

It makes a certain sense. Warren is the liberal we GOP'ers love to hate. I'd rather listen to Nancy Pelosi all day that Warren for five minutes. Her voice is like nails on a blackboard.

So just another speculative log on the fire.
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